From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 965 invoked from network); 12 Dec 1996 19:20:14 -0000 Received: from euclid.skiles.gatech.edu (list@130.207.146.50) by coral.primenet.com.au with SMTP; 12 Dec 1996 19:20:14 -0000 Received: (from list@localhost) by euclid.skiles.gatech.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA09764; Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:10:28 -0500 (EST) Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 14:10:28 -0500 (EST) From: Zefram Message-Id: <9660.199612121911@stone.dcs.warwick.ac.uk> Subject: Re: i586-unknown-linux-gnu? To: hzoli@cs.elte.hu (Zoltan Hidvegi) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 19:11:00 +0000 (GMT) Cc: zsh-workers@math.gatech.edu In-Reply-To: <199612111844.TAA30151@bolyai.cs.elte.hu> from "Zoltan Hidvegi" at Dec 11, 96 07:44:18 pm X-Loop: zefram@dcs.warwick.ac.uk X-Stardate: [-31]8563.99 X-US-Congress: Moronic fuckers Content-Type: text Resent-Message-ID: <"eZW3y1.0.UO2.ZY5io"@euclid> Resent-From: zsh-workers@math.gatech.edu X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2566 X-Loop: zsh-workers@math.gatech.edu Precedence: list Resent-Sender: zsh-workers-request@math.gatech.edu >The new autoconf indentifies linux as linux-gnu. Unfortunately that can >break startup scripts depending on $OSTYPE. I'd like to know what do you >think about changing OSTYPE from linux to linux-gnu. Oh dear. I was hoping that they'd learn from the reaction to "lignux" when they modified Emacs' configure code. ("They" == RMS, of course.) Having checked the new config.sub code (which is too pushy and will break several of my scripts), I recommend that we retain the old name. I will certainly be doing so in all autoconfed packages that I maintain. I think it's quite amusing that they had to add special-case code to accept things like "i386-linux-gnu", which had a different interpretation under the old system. Mr Foot, meet Mr Hole. > I really do not understand why FSF is so annoyed with >i586-unknown-linux. RMS is annoyed. He thinks that Linux users are unaware of the importance of GNU software in the system they are using, and thinks that changing the name of the operating system will help. He describes Linux systems as "Linux-based GNU" systems. I'd expected him to stop when the Hurd was released, and he had a system of his own to call GNU, but it seems that he wants to take credit for two OSes now. > It would be more logical to call elf linux with >libc.so.5 to linux as before, and linux-gnu can mean linux with the new GNU >libc.so.6. Not really. The distinction between "linuxaout" and "linux" (or "linuxelf") is a distinction of binary format. libc6 will not change that. It would be most logical to stick to the existing names. -zefram