Re: zsh-3.0.3: another problem in Src/jobs.c

[suzuki@otsl.oki.co.jp (SUZUKI Hisao)]

>> 	% emacs -nw &
>> 	% fg
>> 	[type ^X^C to terminate the emacs]
>> 	% stty
>> 
>> 	[Note: this is not artificial.  When you forget to set
>> 	 DISPLAY, you will be put in the same situation.]
[snip]
>> If solely my patch of June 20 had applied, then this is not
>> happend when you _once_ suspend the "fg"ed emacs job before
>> terminate it.  Now that you also changed Src/jobs.c from
>
>But it did happed when you did not suspend the fg'ed job, even with your
>patch, right?

Yes, precisely.  However, suspending the fg'ed job was an _easy_
work around to do when you got into the situation.  In fact, I
and my colleagues had never noticed that problem before; we
usually suspend emacs of non x-window to switch the jobs.

>Still I think zsh is right here, and it is an emacs bug.  The problem is
>emacs leaves the tty setting in a wrong state when it exits.  I do not
>know how zsh can help here.  Note that ksh does the same, even worse,
>since after this the ksh line editor becomes unusable, and I had to kill
>ksh from an other terminal.

Well, try bash-1.14.7 or tcsh-6.06, please.  They get on well
with emacs.  It is regrettable that zsh does not.  In spite of
its _excellent_ line-editing facility and other useful features,
this particular problem may make zsh _notorious_ as a shell that
is free and powerful but cannot work well even with emacs...

Perhaps, IMHO, the better way to do is: 

(1) For zsh-3.0.X, to take a conservative patch as mine for the
    time being, and note the problem and works around (ttyctl,
    STTY, or job suspending) in Etc/BUGS.  Please do not forget
    that zsh-3.0.X is being used for _daily_ use by many users
    all over the world.

(2) For zsh-3.1.X, to devise an innovation.  I think it is best
    to make a third option for ttyctl which let the shell
    ignore stty changes under some unusual situations (as bash
    does).  And it will be nice if the new option is default.

--
Hisao Suzuki <suzuki@otsl.oki.co.jp>