From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11714 invoked by alias); 5 Dec 2014 18:55:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-workers-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Workers List List-Post: List-Help: X-Seq: 33871 Received: (qmail 22964 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2014 18:55:23 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.2 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=x-sasl-enc:content-type:mime-version :subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to; s=smtpout; bh=46n5QjEhvYLJ7Q4DAjVOkqX t888=; b=PJTZ/TG+/d1R+FnoKS6uHoVHw1cVIFR289fp6tlN3u2vjTNtOvMwRAo YklQN03Gf7ehU/6Ahtfhmkk1hHPkSDT4zxIqUbx0KaZYu3FU1oa+hsBjj2KsBsTb caB/jMP/F64yWzvDsBXvalDWmg24Gec2e1yqJJBw907XJDkHn8C4= X-Sasl-enc: LTEniSwb7rOtl2aG2OOpnmx6egtRiy8Ed50TFO7sKQtx 1417805722 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.1 \(1993\)) Subject: Re: PATCH: default vi-mode key bindings From: =?windows-1252?Q?Lawrence_Vel=E1zquez?= In-Reply-To: <5481EF6D.4060800@eastlink.ca> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 13:55:22 -0500 Cc: zsh-workers@zsh.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <17052.1417717710@thecus.kiddle.eu> <141204231735.ZM9532@torch.brasslantern.com> <21098.1417785962@thecus.kiddle.eu> <5481EF6D.4060800@eastlink.ca> To: Ray Andrews X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1993) On Dec 5, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Ray Andrews wrote: > Ok, but is any of that actually used at the command line? "The command line" doesn't dictate what keys ought to be used to move = about and edit text. > Does anyone need/use 'command mode' when typing a simple command? >=20 > $ grep "The falcon cannot hear the falconer;" /Yeats/* >=20 > What would one do with command mode there? Edit the command in a way that one is comfortable with? Not everyone = likes Emacs keybindings. > Editing a novel, of course, but a command line? Or does this mean = that zsh somehow butts itself right in to vi so that when editing a = novel, 'vi-style' as set by zsh is somehow active? Is that polite? I'm pretty sure one has to enable vi mode explicitly. Then, I presume = one has a command mode and an insert mode, as expected. > And then there's vim mode too but that's different from vi mode? I'm = missing something fundamental here. There is no vim mode; that was Bart musing. The issue is whether zsh = should cater to people who know vim but not vi. vq=