Still, that's just one example. I don't claim I have done statistical research on this, but my intuition is that better organization leads to increased productivity and decreased bikeshedding. Also, I don't know what regulars here use to manage their email, but I can tell you that using a mailing list is rather incompatible with modern, mainstream email clients. I personally use Telegram's Gmail bot as my main way of receiving emails, and it fails to format emails from mailing lists correctly. I think the fact that most people have switched to using Github's issue tracker (even some closed-source projects) should hint that there are good reasons for using a modern, web&mobile-friendly solution. As you know, Github has now released official clients for both the terminal and iOS. Of course, I don't know much about other issue trackers, and if there is a better option, then that's fine, too. What I don't grok (at all) is what advantages the mailing list is bringing to the table. Github issues can be received and replied to via email as well. I might be a young, inexperienced person, but I have no idea how to do basic things like searching through the past issues in the mailing list. (Do I use Google with a "site:" directive?) Even when finding an issue in the archive, all the conversation is scattered across so many pages, that it just doesn't compare to the sleek experience you get on Github. I mean, the only way I am keeping up with this issue I have opened myself is by having a pinned tab of https://www.zsh.org/mla/workers/2020/index.html on my Chrome, which I check regularly. And I am the kind of person who has 1000 lines of emacs config, 9 open tabs in iTerm at all times, the first of which is a tmux session that has three panes. (And I am a student currently who doesn't work, so all that is for personal use.) I take my notes on a plain-text system that uses git and personal scripts to search/manage them. I listen to music through a custom scraper/player CLI I wrote. I follow my readables through scripts that scrape rss, email, and websites, and package the results into EPUBs that get sent to my Kindle device. You get the idea. I think when I feel that the mailing list is a relic of the past that does not bode well in the mobile age, you should seriously consider that. The current system cannot be utilized effectively by probably more than 98% of developers. Googling for "how to use mailing list effectively" returns marketing bullshit. ... On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 1:53 PM Mikael Magnusson wrote: > On 5/21/20, Rudi C wrote: > > Considering this bug (or a very similar variant) was reported before and > > the issue just died a silent death, I think it's a good idea to create a > > Github repo for tracking zsh issues. Github issue tracker is a lot better > > than mailing lists, as things have a dichotomy of being open/closed, and > > can be labeled. It is harder for issues to die a silent death there. It > is > > also easier to contribute to that, and easier to unsubscribe (I don't > think > > one can unsubscribe from a mailing list post one participated in, as > people > > (wisely) use reply-all.). > > As a counterpoint to that, I give you > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=734643 which has been > open for 8 years. Nobody cares about bugs more just because they are > "open" in some bug tracker. > > -- > Mikael Magnusson >