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Processed in 3.158886 secs); 15 Jul 2019 21:07:50 -0000 X-Envelope-From: justindorfman@gmail.com X-Qmail-Scanner-Mime-Attachments: | X-Qmail-Scanner-Zip-Files: | Received-SPF: pass (ns1.primenet.com.au: SPF record at _netblocks.google.com designates 209.85.208.174 as permitted sender) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=aGPdiPD77ZjYmuBGLqxO142Tioua8Wl1GxQd/oqje6g=; b=uSbmMOURCG7AtLgwfWmErh1xJYPGUt04cgpN+mud1sxEc74DronPVGETgyqprEtQkg /Cuam3B252vB+URH9/bdGlOr2q09sUYJsYiwCHS6Er69QEJeLwdYDEK8ORUv8u6yK+B9 7QVtqMg79Uunam+QDaPoPUKBfr9xLgL4dljF363K3xCWuZWwRo0rtVM8cuyHXRe8kcbH 4mEv/7DIjBpp/joCK/BU27SX8QBxarXr052HUAS0fTL6uN8WDi1Sf8JQw3KK9KgJj2LF ZCaW8kv+1aQDOxnOltkVcNHR4lItKeTx5anBkjfzSSUBFHDaEtF9QB2MuEoeNP8ifgwR aQ1w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:reply-to :from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=aGPdiPD77ZjYmuBGLqxO142Tioua8Wl1GxQd/oqje6g=; b=APj6IhMscht2SxJaj88dR1BZpG/afvhwnPzweD1EuK1zWIyVZUG70HujEBNHdRtRUz tzpL9cHG8E/4kbo9y4fvNV2zzGkH7JrDgcJL5Mulu97sRCloI5a9MNegOaI5/GwLmU7i sjGNRFB+HiUao5niPsFUmlf6cfunUXJmRqgnAnLd2KW0TuplI2SfeEQ20csZ/T7aixoC wSfZZeq4GvJaysRVUKJ86+TqGd3AWNXkgR3gA+3Xtj91FKTPd6nMUqHLJFn3sRvrACOt tUz4g4GHn7bzCs8q0bikhEvJlwnEA8SmTDzUiCYsGDQxyHjlaGrLn9uueNeyvmpOFR5V 2F4A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUut0rEo7rnrlSdS8wb8ia5jdXpoPPqP2pwYT+U9xC0jXb1lNv/ kggnX66HWQrmK7DXUgKpD5DPHpuzAqv6UuL09pf2oqgqfuI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw+B6kOGHZZf7YacOPEv5NsJhP0cH14elM14huyF8m4bwS0pqj9u395oZKOdZZCSJ/Z0MIKGzrFB10ZBl+RLyE= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:3807:: with SMTP id f7mr2102667lja.87.1563224832921; Mon, 15 Jul 2019 14:07:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <95208-1561675878.358761@oOx4.pGSX.EcaY> <20190628101238.dscl5mryiilbh5ib@chaz.gmail.com> <16e3d1cda40ac09f136a9bd2d0aa94cf2a9e89e9.camel@fifi.org> In-Reply-To: Reply-To: justindorfman@gmail.com From: Justin Dorfman Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 14:07:00 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Logo To: Bart Schaefer Cc: Philippe Troin , Zsh hackers list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000ded3d6058dbea4f7" --000000000000ded3d6058dbea4f7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hey Bart, > I'm still not especially excited by the open circles at the ends of the Z (what are they meant to convey?) Noted. TBH nothing, just a design idea they had. > but among the first five suggestions in this round I prefer the color scheme of #2 (the black background). I otherwise essentially agree with Phil's comments. Awesome noted. @everyone else, doing my best to respond. Got a few fires to put out this week. Regards, Justin Dorfman @jdorfman On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 11:46 AM Bart Schaefer wrote: > I'm still not especially excited by the open circles at the ends of the Z > (what are they meant to convey?) but among the first five suggestions in > this round I prefer the color scheme of #2 (the black background). I > otherwise essentially agree with Phil's comments. > > > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 11:22 AM Philippe Troin wrote: > >> Justin, >> >> I'll throw in my 2 cents. >> First thanks for the work, it looks great. >> >> From all 10 icons in this round, my personal favorite is copy 3. >> I like the subdued Z graphic, and the name of the project being clearly >> visible. >> If I had to change a couple of things, I would try: >> * using lower case instead of small caps: this is the way I think most >> people see the string "zsh" in their daily life. >> * using italic, so that "zsh" slants the same way as the stylized Z, >> giving a sense of forward motion. >> * Maybe I'd try extending the bottom horizontal part of the stylized Z >> and have the string "zsh" or "sh" rendered over this extended bottom >> Z leg. Scuse' the ASCII graphics and wrong aspect ratio: >> o---, >> / >> / zsh >> / >> `--------------o >> >> This is what I don't like about some other logos: >> * For logos 6-10, I don't really see "zsh" initially, just "sh". It >> takes an extra step to think about or see "zsh" in the logo. Maybe >> making the stylized Z smaller would help here. >> * I think number 4 is too dark/heavy. >> * I don't like the font on number 5, just a personal taste. >> * I don't like the bottom vertical alignment on number 2, it doesn't >> feel natural. >> * In number 1, I think that "zsh" all lower-case would work better >> than the initialed "Zsh", see first bullet above for the rationale. >> >> Thank you again for the great looking logos! >> >> Phil. >> >> On Thu, 2019-07-11 at 19:45 -0700, Justin Dorfman wrote: >> > Hey Everyone, >> > >> > I gave our designer the feedback and this is what he came back with >> > https://cl.ly/aca8f4c2ecab >> > >> > I think the icons are great, but the wordmarks need work. I've been >> > playing >> > with different fonts and I'm just not happy yet >> > https://cl.ly/b92d660678b9 >> > >> > Look forward to your feedback. >> > >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Justin Dorfman >> > @jdorfman >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 9:55 AM Sebastian Gniazdowski < >> > sgniazdowski@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 12:13, Stephane Chazelas >> > > wrote: >> > > > 2019-06-27 16:20:31 -0700, Bart Schaefer: >> > > > [...] >> > > > > Now that you mention it, I'm curious how orange and black got >> > > > > chosen >> > > > > in the first place? Is it because zsh was invented at >> > > > > Princeton? >> > > > [...] >> > > > >> > > > Sorry for throwing a completely unrelated idea late to the >> > > > party, but when the idea of a new zsh logo was first mentioned, >> > > > one thing that came to my mind was a "ZSH" made with multicolor >> > > > lego bricks to reflect the multi-faced, modular nature of zsh >> > > > (and it can be shaped any way you want; playdough would also >> > > > work there I guess). >> > > > >> > > > Maybe not the best image for a shell as lego bricks may convey >> > > > some "building" meaning which do not as directly apply to a >> > > > shell as to other tools. >> > > >> > > I would agree that the lego bricks convey the 'building" meaning, >> > > which to me appears as a "free your mind" sense, which if shared >> > > among >> > > other people would be an useful one for Zsh as the message to >> > > convey >> > > about itself. >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Sebastian Gniazdowski >> > > News: https://twitter.com/ZdharmaI >> > > IRC: https://kiwiirc.com/client/chat.freenode.net:+6697/#zplugin >> > > Blog: http://zdharma.org >> > > >> >> --000000000000ded3d6058dbea4f7--