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From: Devin Hussey <husseydevin@gmail.com>
To: "Lawrence Velázquez" <vq@larryv.me>
Cc: zsh-workers@zsh.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Ignore EACCES when doing non-pure globbing
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 20:12:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEtFKsvKA1Ejnn96gzQpwGHYW7Jm3F_jCY0ArrgLEMApGOaU_g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEtFKssoysK5T33JHZPKeoxaRwBaWtj0jYZJeqCpGMv7CF65pw@mail.gmail.com>

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Actually, scratch that, I can confirm that Android has their permissions
set to 711 on the /data folder. Otherwise we wouldn't be able to cd to
them. And the 1 bit *is* the searchable bit (not the executable bit) for
directories (TIL), so /data is searchable.

So, both the pre-patch and post-patch behaviors are noncompliant. The first
is too strict and this is too lenient (although I prefer more lenient than
strict). Back to the drawing board, I guess.

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 7:53 PM Devin Hussey <husseydevin@gmail.com> wrote:

> We are already violating POSIX with our globbing:
>
> "If the pattern does not match any existing filenames or pathnames, the
> pattern string shall be left unchanged."
>
> Therefore, this:
>
> zsh:1: no matches found: /tmp/inaccessible/a/*
>
> is wrong, it should just print this:
>
> /tmp/inaccessible/a/*
>
> Also, at least with the implementation on my device, the glob() function
> works fine as long as the folder has execute permission. (The sample was
> wrong, it should be 111, not 000)
>
> On Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 6:47 PM Lawrence Velázquez <vq@larryv.me> wrote:
>
>> > On Jan 12, 2021, at 5:42 PM, Devin Hussey <husseydevin@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Even if we can't access a parent folder, there is still a chance we can
>> > access a subdirectory.
>>
>> I might be mistaken (entirely possible!), but this behavior seems
>> to violate POSIX volume 3 chapter 2 section 2.13.3, which states
>> in part that
>>
>>         Specified patterns shall be matched against existing filenames
>>         and pathnames, as appropriate. Each component that contains a
>>         pattern character shall require read permission in the directory
>>         containing that component. Any component, except the last, that
>>         does not contain a pattern character shall require search
>> permission.
>>
>> (
>> https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/V3_chap02.html#tag_18_13_03
>> )
>>
>> vq
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-13  1:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-12 22:42 Devin Hussey
2021-01-12 22:48 ` Devin Hussey
2021-01-12 23:47 ` Lawrence Velázquez
2021-01-13  0:53   ` Devin Hussey
2021-01-13  1:12     ` Devin Hussey [this message]
2021-01-13  1:28       ` Bart Schaefer
2021-01-13  1:26     ` Mikael Magnusson
     [not found]       ` <CAEtFKsuDqhu3USSVCcrt-8rkvA_yAkHt=eU+FY6=pNu+gVogMw@mail.gmail.com>
2021-01-13  2:14         ` Devin Hussey
2021-01-13  3:01           ` Devin Hussey

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