From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from primenet.com.au (ns1.primenet.com.au [203.24.36.2]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 4c84380f for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2019 21:06:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 15634 invoked by alias); 21 Dec 2019 17:14:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-workers-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Workers List List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: X-Seq: 45117 Received: (qmail 18012 invoked by uid 1010); 21 Dec 2019 17:14:16 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from mail-lj1-f173.google.com by f.primenet.com.au (envelope-from , uid 7791) with qmail-scanner-2.11 (clamdscan: 0.102.1/25663. spamassassin: 3.4.2. Clear:RC:0(209.85.208.173):SA:0(-1.9/5.0):. Processed in 4.317779 secs); 21 Dec 2019 17:14:16 -0000 X-Envelope-From: schaefer@brasslantern.com X-Qmail-Scanner-Mime-Attachments: | X-Qmail-Scanner-Zip-Files: | Received-SPF: pass (ns1.primenet.com.au: SPF record at _netblocks.google.com designates 209.85.208.173 as permitted sender) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Hto1YJzTF2iYfzOWRTvTMtsmyglSXcljA2jEh8XupiQ=; b=l+DUSxYUocaaBwyhH9x1xy/eAAddHpI5rMs2a4KQT4gCWLNnqXhqWI6FAidP7AROxX 2MBJFdsF6axIFY6gJDYxqny80kCP5tl7rnMtSiwSAOtWbFrjAmnppLo+cbzk9/FNxt2u 89uLdB4IJS3mbk8M3pNbwC4yoYZZj/OovhFgVMeQFsbqVwm8VH4dbNWZsSzbselx34qT 9QYoNYoErLUC7mi9pSaJy/ei+PL2R6bA0nSur16tFq6bxgsCyocmUp0io79fIxw++sSv CVhqw2FNEXrTZ3+NytjMQ9iZtK8YSUgSLph2SXor3HeY17V5FF/ZnTZ4NZF/DSNCCF3a kvvQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAV5l4EckhySdBCpZE2vkTy3/XKMQuIYm2Wd6ZEs2tOVQup0a3A1 blLDmqmULVqgq9+0J8smYvV+hoWjpnVQ7Yoiq/YRsJR59VQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqz9XIgMQEumTCynNjuUxLv+HR8oHk99Atflth+8PMLsgCfapMVmr5eO+p7D9KGTKU+5IPAVw1Sd3gFO02w250c= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9592:: with SMTP id w18mr13222709ljh.98.1576948415334; Sat, 21 Dec 2019 09:13:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Bart Schaefer Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2019 09:13:23 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Gmail vs. zsh lists, again To: Zsh hackers list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Please pardon the meta-discussion. This is mostly an FYI. I've had several messages lately either get warnings about "can't verify this came from ..." or labeled as spam or both. Today I have patches 3/5 through 5/5 from Daniel (for vcs) but no sign anywhere of the first two -- I don't know if that's related, but it seemed worth mentioning. Then of course there's the ongoing issue with domains that publish strict SPF rules, such that when ezmlm forwards the message the gmail servers won't accept it, because it is coming from the wrong IP address space. I periodically either get "mail to you is bouncing" warnings from ezmlm or find myself in the middle of a conversation because I only get to see the replies. There's apparently an updated version of ezmlm available from http://untroubled.org/ if we're able to get an upgrade done. I've lost track of the progress on relocating the list servers.