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From: Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com>
To: Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
Cc: Peter Stephenson <p.w.stephenson@ntlworld.com>,
	 "zsh-workers@zsh.org" <zsh-workers@zsh.org>
Subject: Re: Any way to allow clobbering empty files when noclobber is set?
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2020 10:20:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH+w=7YzW4jSsWv4bBDUFYPUTSBP0e4MtfF3c77YsB4VKz5BsA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200607115515.6624e240@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2>

On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 4:55 AM Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>
> In the clobbering open, we use O_CREAT|O_TRUNC, which means: if it
> doesn't exist, create it; if it already exists, truncate it.  If some
> other process calls open() on the same file immediately after our
> open() [or subsequent write()] call returns, there's nothing we can do
> about that.

Also if another process already had the existing file open, whatever
it was doing will be lost.  (Aside:  If it's an NFS file, and the
other process continues writing, this often results in a block of NUL
bytes where the NFS server fills in between the two write positions.)

> As to CLOBBER_EMPTY, the situation is similar.  We can call open() with
> O_CREAT but neither O_EXCL nor O_TRUNC and then fstat() the resulting
> file.  The same race conditions as in the previous paragraphs exist
> here too — for example, someone could open() and write() to the file
> after we fstat() it — but we neither can nor need to do any better
> about races in this case than in the others.

This in fact avoids (or at least does a better job of avoiding) the
problem with two different write positions if some other process has
already opened the file for write.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-06-07 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20200603020919eucas1p13e26ebcbb335784d14bfb97b137f385a@eucas1p1.samsung.com>
2020-06-03  2:08 ` Martin Tournoij
2020-06-03 12:04   ` Peter Stephenson
2020-06-04  1:48     ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-06-04  2:43       ` Bart Schaefer
2020-06-04  4:06         ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-06-04  5:00           ` Bart Schaefer
2020-06-05  3:10             ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-06-05  3:18               ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-06-06  1:07               ` Bart Schaefer
2020-06-06  4:48                 ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-06-06  7:04                   ` Bart Schaefer
2020-06-04  6:31       ` Martin Tournoij
2020-06-05  2:22         ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-06-04  2:13     ` Vin Shelton
2020-06-04  2:35       ` Bart Schaefer
2020-06-04  2:36       ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-06-04 11:57         ` Vin Shelton
2020-06-04  5:06     ` Bart Schaefer
2020-06-04  5:41       ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-06-05  2:07         ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-06-05  4:38           ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-06-06  1:41             ` Bart Schaefer
2020-06-06  4:55               ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-06-06  6:25                 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-06-06  7:08                 ` Bart Schaefer
2020-06-06  8:03                   ` Daniel Shahaf
     [not found]           ` <1941572212.466119.1591360860372@mail2.virginmedia.com>
     [not found]             ` <e7f7dfe2-eb4a-457b-85fb-091935a74c0e@www.fastmail.com>
2020-06-06 11:57               ` Peter Stephenson
2020-06-06 12:48                 ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-06-06 15:24                   ` Bart Schaefer
2020-06-06 16:24                     ` Peter Stephenson
2020-06-07 11:55                       ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-06-07 17:00                         ` Peter Stephenson
2020-06-08  3:27                           ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-06-08  9:30                             ` Peter Stephenson
2020-06-07 17:20                         ` Bart Schaefer [this message]
2020-06-06 15:09                 ` Bart Schaefer
2020-06-04  6:47       ` Martin Tournoij
2020-06-04  9:42       ` Peter Stephenson
2020-06-04 12:20         ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-06-04 12:26           ` Peter Stephenson
2020-06-04 12:15     ` Peter Stephenson
2020-06-04 20:35       ` Bart Schaefer
2020-06-05  1:59         ` Daniel Shahaf

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