From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 649 invoked by alias); 15 Apr 2018 17:38:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-workers-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Workers List List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: X-Seq: 42652 Received: (qmail 29941 invoked by uid 1010); 15 Apr 2018 17:38:13 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from mail-lf0-f52.google.com by f.primenet.com.au (envelope-from , uid 7791) with qmail-scanner-2.11 (clamdscan: 0.99.2/21882. spamassassin: 3.4.1. Clear:RC:0(209.85.215.52):SA:0(-1.9/5.0):. Processed in 1.445771 secs); 15 Apr 2018 17:38:13 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on f.primenet.com.au X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,SPF_PASS,T_DKIMWL_WL_MED,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1 X-Envelope-From: schaefer@brasslantern.com X-Qmail-Scanner-Mime-Attachments: | X-Qmail-Scanner-Zip-Files: | DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=brasslantern-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=IJSGNFmK2TiZJkop02eKn4+f48408ixQ2JMKSzpdkZk=; b=puNU4Kkt8FNPldZXgOgiKzQ88r3Mc2vmQS9IA/15FJXcTMAzBO9i7UeMJ5pnJwB1u2 jQJT9ngoJAX9hvFrQrsGy8VpEXu1wsALMR86OPIGLSWsoStDPf+ldnGNVKKqTqMDVR5C cvAdgVobFx6HwRRLyaLFFeBr+aK6uO6neA9I1dzQkCZw44wvfGk037dEwZoY6IOP2dWl ep7S8ImESM0OC+/DERQDv4OBNLbPRy08mSnjN1/hFBkkIPc/56vC39GUOHF9FT+w6lo9 64dL88Y9cXaCJtl7eWlxSxy+WNpukTt4wK1MPFhRRjcQkXUg66mCjXe7uEFdQ1ka0517 Ljvg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=IJSGNFmK2TiZJkop02eKn4+f48408ixQ2JMKSzpdkZk=; b=c/t26kSJm6w29ohopaYNlZlK+ihanZu6dm1kjnvcTgY5BHhtHRG78FzO42Ly6tTwuP WG31Vg+cyL+59cb/bJw/HPP0Zz/9yAi067UIvpIpWNNS8RLsZdKDyFqzDV3l5/BR9rNC ifx8wyCMVGb2H9MX05T4nbBbA5AMb9+PrEizd0Gg9yuFOVuahx5QLo9k30uSDXGvvlYj wEYCoDuMgxP0uTu83ylSSG3MGbkL9bAirda9oRyVigV+4aBcWI8aKhwFP0SugXK3CMW1 TvSkwGBQ9VVd7MHnNqIerAYBeUufGvdhLdxH3hM3M3V6R0jMRXpW3upcBs77vfNcvBvQ WbGg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tAkRlcKTW8wDR9ApYzCG2AbErVTKls9yeYbWBVkGIio0hn+VCVr EcvKTbevm9/xFdKd89iAiBoVo/VSWIkGVcXu2wKwpg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx4/O8kfKtw9M4+57GcOUCEckSxiXxWYIpwS4Dao9cX1UWmc7PJRRPjsvJlBKRpOgxvrETo00BUWL7APINgkkveA= X-Received: by 2002:a19:2655:: with SMTP id m82-v6mr12165109lfm.107.1523813887613; Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:38:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180415162326.GA12549@chaz.gmail.com> References: <20180323161612.GB4857@chaz.gmail.com> <180323163614.ZM10192@torch.brasslantern.com> <180323221959.ZM27569@torch.brasslantern.com> <20180324080514.txxyrb3qiztu4pqt@gmail.com> <180324150945.ZM32251@torch.brasslantern.com> <20180410124545.13fccd5d@camnpupstephen.cam.scsc.local> <20180410145926.64c4f671@camnpupstephen.cam.scsc.local> <180411151025.ZM19332@torch.brasslantern.com> <20180412172342.52df6b10@camnpupstephen.cam.scsc.local> <20180415162326.GA12549@chaz.gmail.com> From: Bart Schaefer Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2018 10:38:07 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: "echo | ps -j $(:) | cat | cat | cat" runs components in different process groups To: Peter Stephenson , Zsh hackers list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000079bab00569e69146" --00000000000079bab00569e69146 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Stephane Chazelas < stephane.chazelas@gmail.com> wrote: > > Also note that > > echo $(sleep 10) & echo started > > Only outputs "started" after 10 seconds. > I would say that's actually correct. $(sleep 10) is *not* a background job, it's output has to be collected before the first "echo" can run. The shell has no intrinsic idea that there won't be any output. --00000000000079bab00569e69146--