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Wed, 19 Jan 2022 09:29:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220118222414.2507-1-mikachu@gmail.com> <20220119140617.GC4371@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> In-Reply-To: <20220119140617.GC4371@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> From: Bart Schaefer Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 09:29:40 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: PATCH: Allow using STTY= to save terminal state To: Daniel Shahaf Cc: Zsh hackers list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Seq: 49699 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 6:07 AM Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > So perhaps we need some syntactic sugar for "wrap a command with > a well-known pair of before/after modifiers". Not every problem deserves a generalized solution. This sort of thing can already be done with function wrappers, wanders pretty far afield from shell syntax, and adds keywords in ambiguous contexts.