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Wed, 24 Mar 2021 13:39:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210225080519.GA22300@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> <20210227132121.GA9308@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> <20210324134539.GF12170@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: From: Marlon Richert Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2021 22:38:29 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Rewrite of zsh-newuser-install To: Bart Schaefer , gi1242+zsh@gmail.com, Paul Cc: Zsh hackers list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Seq: 48239 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: On Wed, Mar 24, 2021 at 7:45 PM Bart Schaefer wrote: > > 2. HISTFILE location: XDG conventions suggest putting things in > > .cache/zsh > > Discussed this too, and rejected dependence on XDG, I believe. "Rejected" is a bit of an overstatement. I instead made it a choice in the `zsh-newuser-install` wizard: https://gitlab.com/marlonrichert/zsh-sensible/-/blob/master/zsh-newuser-install To safely try out the new wizard, do this: % cd $(mktemp -d) % git clone --depth 1 -- https://gitlab.com/marlonrichert/zsh-sensible.git % unset _comp_dumpfile ZDOTDIR XDG_CACHE_HOME XDG_CONFIG_HOME XDG_DATA_HOME % FPATH=$PWD/zsh-sensible:$FPATH HOME=$PWD PS1='%# ' exec zsh Then the wizard will start automatically, but without affecting your current dotfiles.