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From: Sebastian Gniazdowski <sgniazdowski@gmail.com>
To: Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com>
Cc: Zsh hackers list <zsh-workers@zsh.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Support the mksh's ${|func;} substitution
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 20:21:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKc7PVD2jx7nXjst4tf-_eZD-yusFY_e3riB9hOTRdZJgHMqPg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH+w=7YL25JXUs5aHFtfNvs0WddC-JoDZtv-0+7O1sxkeEaOAg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 at 07:29, Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2019 at 7:21 PM Sebastian Gniazdowski
> <sgniazdowski@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been kinda-sorta following this thread amidst a bunch of other
> "real life" distractions.  Is the deep meaning here the desire to have
> a $(...) that doesn't fork?

Yes. this was a founding of the idea, but it then did come to me again
when wanting to apply function to array elements.

> parser tokens, so the stuff that follows them can be parsed at the
> statement level rather than gobbled up by the parameter substitution
> code.  That is, ideally these two examples --
>
> > - echo ${(x):-REPLY=test2} -> test2
> > ...
>
> -- would be parsed more like $(...) is parsed (and at roughly the same
> place in the parser), so that (among other things) you would not have
> to quote \$val like that.

Would it be hard to accomplish? Because currently the ${...} contents
gets fairly unparsed into stringsubst or paramsubst.

> On the other hand the "var='...'; echo ${(x)var}" example seems
> reasonable and would enable those other two uses as a side-effect.

I also like that method. I think that the need for the quoting would
be natural because of the way :- works. It would even be less natural
to not need to quote.

> I still have a nagging feeling that it should be more like the
> (e^...^) globbing flag, in particular the part about returning arrays
> through reply=(...) but also whether it might look like
> ${(x^code^)var} where "code" would receive the current value of the
> substitution as $REPLY and return the new value in $reply.  Your "for"
> example could still I think come out like:
>
> ${(x^eval $REPLY^):-for val (test test3) {
> reply=\$val
> }}

I'm not following the example. Why there's reply= and not reply+=? Why
in the :- it's reply that's altered, while in (x) there's REPLY?

> Other things that need to be thought about before this gets a go/no-go
> are nested substitutions and how to fit (x) into the order-of-events
> subsect(Rules) as laid out in expn.yo.

I think that the (x) flag should be at the top of the list, first.

-- 
Sebastian Gniazdowski
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-10 18:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-06  0:52 Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-06  0:54 ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-06 23:16 ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-07 12:16   ` Daniel Shahaf
2019-09-07 15:07 ` Stephane Chazelas
2019-09-07 18:09   ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-07 20:19     ` Stephane Chazelas
2019-09-07 21:19       ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-10  2:20         ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-10  5:29           ` Bart Schaefer
2019-09-10 18:21             ` Sebastian Gniazdowski [this message]
2019-09-10 19:38               ` Bart Schaefer
2019-09-12  0:08                 ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-12  1:03                   ` Bart Schaefer
2019-09-12  2:06                     ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-12  5:35                       ` Bart Schaefer
2019-09-12  6:00                         ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-12  6:55                           ` Bart Schaefer
2019-09-13 20:28                             ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-13 21:33                               ` Bart Schaefer
2019-09-13 21:36                                 ` Bart Schaefer
2019-09-14  0:41                                   ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-14  0:44                                     ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2023-05-03 14:46 Sebastian Gniazdowski
2023-07-04  1:55 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-07-04 18:53   ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-07-05  5:32     ` Bart Schaefer
2023-07-05  6:30       ` Bart Schaefer
2023-07-06  1:39       ` Bart Schaefer
2023-07-06  2:27         ` Mikael Magnusson
2023-07-06  4:00           ` Bart Schaefer
2023-07-18  3:14             ` Bart Schaefer

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