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From: Sebastian Gniazdowski <sgniazdowski@gmail.com>
To: Sebastian Gniazdowski <sgniazdowski@gmail.com>,
	Zsh hackers list <zsh-workers@zsh.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Support the mksh's ${|func;} substitution
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2019 20:09:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKc7PVDC6NULei7FCKXvHu1YRzhmk9ZJK4BECRRxpWNQpHCw9w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190907150741.jwztdoslrvk5j7nk@chaz.gmail.com>

On Sat, 7 Sep 2019 at 17:07, Stephane Chazelas
<stephane.chazelas@gmail.com> wrote:
> Note that mksh's operator can do ${|REPLY=value}, it's not
> limited to functions.

Ok, true, it can also run binary commands.

> The ; is also not necessary

I think that this is undocumented feature, as the docs say:

"Another variant of substitution are the valsubs (value substitutions)
${|command;} which are also executed in the current environment, like
funsubs, but share their I/O with the parent; instead, they evaluate
to whatever the, initially empty, expression-local variable REPLY is
set to within the commands."

> Note that in zsh anything is a valid function name, just like
> just about anything is a valid command name. So your operator
> would be incompatible with mksh's if it accepted arbitrary
> function names unless you handled quoting in there:
>
> $ ./Src/zsh -c '"REPLY=value"() { REPLY=x; echo done; }; REPLY\=value; echo ${|REPLY=value;}'
> done
> zsh:1: no such function: REPLY=value

That's a valid and nice point, and it does yield some concerns,
however for any problems to appear the user would have to have at
least a function with "targetvariable=..." in name, i.e. a coincidence
of two places in code, the targetvar= in the ${|...;} and in the
function name, and this can be controlled and seems unlikely to occur
by accident.

> With those fixed, i.e. when it's really like mksh's ${|code},
> I'd agree the feature could be useful, but I suspect that would
> be harder to implement as it would mean changing the parsing.

The parsing would have to be changed to prevent the "=" in function names?

I think that I've chosen an initial wrong direction: to implement the
substitution "as-is", with it's form, treating it as a model. Instead,
I should have implemented the feature, not the substitution. Zsh has
its own ways to set-up complex substitutions and this is done via the
parens flags.

Would you consider such method, i.e. to not impose mksh's substitution
ways on Zsh, but instead assign a flag, like e.g.: ${(|)funct}, still
useful?

> Note that beside the math functions, zsh already has something
> similar with its "dynamic named directory" framework (a feature
> I always found quite obscure/far fetched myself).
>
> echo "${| REPLY=value}"
>
> could be done in zsh with:
>
> zsh_directory_name() {
>   [[ $1 = d ]] && [[ $2 = //* ]] || return
>   eval " ${2#//}"
>   reply=("$REPLY" ${#2})
> }
>
> echo ${${${(D):-//REPLY=value}#\~\[}%\]}
>
> (even more convoluted than your math function approach).

That's interesting, it actually allows to do:

arr=( val1 val2 abc1 abc3 )
funct() { REPLY="${(C)MATCH}"; }
zsh_directory_name() { ... }
print -rl ${arr[@]//(#m)*/${${${(D):-//funct}#\~\[}%\]}}

Output:
Val1
Val2
Abc1
Abc3

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-07 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-06  0:52 Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-06  0:54 ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-06 23:16 ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-07 12:16   ` Daniel Shahaf
2019-09-07 15:07 ` Stephane Chazelas
2019-09-07 18:09   ` Sebastian Gniazdowski [this message]
2019-09-07 20:19     ` Stephane Chazelas
2019-09-07 21:19       ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-10  2:20         ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-10  5:29           ` Bart Schaefer
2019-09-10 18:21             ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-10 19:38               ` Bart Schaefer
2019-09-12  0:08                 ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-12  1:03                   ` Bart Schaefer
2019-09-12  2:06                     ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-12  5:35                       ` Bart Schaefer
2019-09-12  6:00                         ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-12  6:55                           ` Bart Schaefer
2019-09-13 20:28                             ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-13 21:33                               ` Bart Schaefer
2019-09-13 21:36                                 ` Bart Schaefer
2019-09-14  0:41                                   ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2019-09-14  0:44                                     ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2023-05-03 14:46 Sebastian Gniazdowski
2023-07-04  1:55 ` Bart Schaefer
2023-07-04 18:53   ` Lawrence Velázquez
2023-07-05  5:32     ` Bart Schaefer
2023-07-05  6:30       ` Bart Schaefer
2023-07-06  1:39       ` Bart Schaefer
2023-07-06  2:27         ` Mikael Magnusson
2023-07-06  4:00           ` Bart Schaefer
2023-07-18  3:14             ` Bart Schaefer

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