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Sat, 03 Sep 2022 12:07:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220824043145.165779-1-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> <20220824043145.165779-4-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> <7779ec6b-10d5-410a-97da-5ec545cd6e1c@www.fastmail.com> <764a967b-86df-42bf-9242-22e9aeedfac6@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Felipe Contreras Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2022 14:07:31 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] FAQ: sync newuser-install To: Roman Perepelitsa Cc: Mikael Magnusson , =?UTF-8?Q?Lawrence_Vel=C3=A1zquez?= , Bart Schaefer , zsh-workers@zsh.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Seq: 50591 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 8:39 AM Roman Perepelitsa wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 2, 2022 at 5:46 AM Mikael Magnusson wrote: > > > > SAVEHIST greater than HISTSIZE is always equivalent to > > its being equal to HISTSIZE [...] > > I believe this is the case as far as using history from within zsh is > concerned. If I understand correctly, Felipe wants to have fewer > commands available in history when using zsh than what is stored in > HISTFILE. I'm not sure under which circumstances this can be desired. > Perhaps when working on a system with very little RAM, plenty of disk > space and no swap? In any case, I wouldn't recommend using such a > configuration to beginners because it's bound to cause confusion. It > can be surprising when some lines from HISTFILE aren't available when > searching or printing history from within zsh. No, this is not what I want. It doesn't matter what I want. My point is that new users do not necessarily understand what HISTSIZE and SAVEHIST mean, and they don't have to. SAVEHIST was created for a reason, and my script demonstrated that reason. If it was true that SAVEHIST should *always* be the same and HISTSIZE, then SAVEHIST wouldn't exist, as the code simply could use HISTSIZE. This is not something new users should be burdened with, they don't need to know what SAVEHIST means, just that it should be set to $HISTSIZE. -- Felipe Contreras