From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,RDNS_NONE,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from authenticated user by zero.zsh.org with local id 1kinHn-0004H4-NV; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 23:36:19 +0000 Authentication-Results: zsh.org; iprev=pass (mail-wm1-f54.google.com) smtp.remote-ip=209.85.128.54; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.a=rsa-sha256; dmarc=pass header.from=gmail.com; arc=none Received: from mail-wm1-f54.google.com ([209.85.128.54]:33059) by zero.zsh.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) id 1kinHP-00042r-NZ; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 23:35:56 +0000 Received: by mail-wm1-f54.google.com with SMTP id u10so2564608wmm.0 for ; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 15:35:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=VZ3cMGMH9Y5zdf6Rl1CHwwx8ar72/L1FHeUnOgK2Naw=; b=uq9Luxo9lm8ieo563+RAyw2/ZqSAc4aeg4AAptJrNGIqIKk8Mm9bSuL0uI+taPXRWZ EoWqeVqZawYDclhp4zBhiqYpDIz+R21uJB044rbWSw3D78QB6igpcDesiv+iDecdwvHb uraLzivDxwUD7YdcP/uDjhbc8aW1VcvZFzoME1T7ube5a4EqO0IZrZnlUVKfsRvff1t2 ZoAeK6FRGnTEZ41f/g+kbW1+dfvAQF3ux0iVyj1/1u/Poyx93IEVFiG9u8pd0jCctgie e28exJbxG5VWMc91xG/ICrz2NeChPqM2+0Icno+YxweQhIHVi3h0OFXfEMw9nu9BE51i sW/Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=VZ3cMGMH9Y5zdf6Rl1CHwwx8ar72/L1FHeUnOgK2Naw=; b=lB+nohxP0R0CeSptJB8o4pKzgu5pq+8DmfmtEFaiQXIWXPVl0wB0aA8VYS56i8F4SC Jsvsvn3rKaW1zTyCGfJ3MdCWn4xag9hUEWDqjWMXSCTMTHwuiqHq90RwzUHUuXHe1drS 8B/o9oOgJrlUQu81UM92fVwB4baWav9JswK0wxt/MYs58di2fG5rqH2BDasdFH7HPvWz 05VPA4url1KcCsvQXzOy/Tnyo764yIvPd8b2hNOrxydsfX9NqmZhvTEH09a514YIq/FE P+PBnyukgZq6xYCE802HOAfe5HO1MauCEPGhEDBBXc6iLD1tccFhvGDMXoKaNSOe1Q0h IV3A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530fNoEdApYiQWbo9xlX9eCDi7gZw3FMXtyxaL08oZMucbm5UguJ XhCWt8SYNnTrs+cj/aDHNtRlgI0PpJo6ak6fN7gjkjJeGLg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxDBv0yaQcbUPohEm5ApMpvtRsG3958/Qhfz2BPrwKu9aqy5xPOO16mGpJcViZrNunBqiku9i470Lj+M+f6pzA= X-Received: by 2002:a1c:a145:: with SMTP id k66mr11392212wme.173.1606520155022; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 15:35:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20201125131921.vay7h3xk5qn4odgg@chazelas.org> <20201126061029.in5tpnrg5bplam5k@chazelas.org> <86243-1606389706.499549@-gQx.nNYG.4Z3k> In-Reply-To: From: Felipe Contreras Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 17:35:44 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: More rabbit-holes with unset variables To: Bart Schaefer Cc: Zsh hackers list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Seq: 47681 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 4:06 PM Bart Schaefer wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 27, 2020 at 1:49 PM Felipe Contreras > wrote: > > > > There's no rabbit hole here. It's obvious that zsh's behavior is inconsistent. > > The rabbit holes are all the possible tangents that may or may not be > additional inconsistencies, into which we keep plunging, rather than > focusing on the most reasonable way to address the one we started > with. Right. But solving the first one (with setopt KSH_TYPESET or whatever), solves the second one. So to me they are not unrelated. -- Felipe Contreras