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Thu, 01 Sep 2022 15:45:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220824043145.165779-1-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> <20220824043145.165779-4-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> <7779ec6b-10d5-410a-97da-5ec545cd6e1c@www.fastmail.com> <764a967b-86df-42bf-9242-22e9aeedfac6@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Felipe Contreras Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2022 17:45:00 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] FAQ: sync newuser-install To: Roman Perepelitsa Cc: Mikael Magnusson , =?UTF-8?Q?Lawrence_Vel=C3=A1zquez?= , Bart Schaefer , zsh-workers@zsh.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Seq: 50562 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 5:28 PM Roman Perepelitsa wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 11:57 PM Mikael Magnusson wrote: > > On 8/30/22, Felipe Contreras wrote: > > > You may think HISTFILE, SAVEHIST and HISTSIZE are self-explanatory, > > > but the fact is most people need to read the documentation, and even > > > then they end up confused. A few days ago I replied to a person on > > > reddit who had a configuration with HISTSIZE bigger than SAVEHIST. > > > > That is the correct configuration. > > This is my understanding as well. To be more specific, SAVEHIST > greater than HISTSIZE is equivalent to its being equal to HISTSIZE. Only if you are not using APPEND_HISTORY. Isn't this proof that zsh developers are projecting too much of their *personal* workflow into the users? Not everyone uses zsh the way you do. If even veteran experts can't get right SAVEHIST and HISTSIZE, what hope does a brand new newcomer have? It is unreasonable to force absolutely every new user to set these options just to get started. -- Felipe Contreras