Ah, okay. That (commandline arguments not being able to contain NUL) seems.. a bit anachronistic. But I guess it's never been enough of a problem to warrant the considerable bother to fix it. Fair enough. On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Nikolay Aleksandrovich Pavlov (ZyX) < kp-pav@yandex.ru> wrote: > > 10.12.2015, 04:52, "D Gowers" : > > Test case: > > > > v=$(printf foo\\0bar);expr length "$v";expr length $v > > > > alternatively: > > > > v=foo$'\0'bar;expr length "$v";expr length $v > > > > In zsh, the values returned are 3 and 3. > > In dash and zsh, the values returned are 6 and 6. > > > > Both of those results are wrong, AFAICS (foo$'0'bar is 7 characters > long). > > But the zsh result is more severely wrong. I could understand the > bash/dash > > result, at least, as 'NULL characters are not counted towards length'. > > Both results are *right*. In both cases you ask the length of the string > and you get it. > > In dash (also posh, bash and busybox ash) zero byte is skipped when > storing. So length of the $v *is* six. You may question whether it is right > storing without zero byte, but the fact that all four shells have exactly > the same behaviour makes me think this is part of the POSIX standard. In > any case non-C strings are not on the list of features of these shells > unlike zsh (it also internally uses C NUL-terminated strings, but zero > bytes and some other characters are “metafied” (i.e. escaped) and > unmetafied when passed to the outer world e.g. by doing `echo $v` to pass > string to terminal). > > As I said in zsh zero byte is stored. But C strings which are the only > ones that can be arguments to any program are **NUL-terminated**. So what > you do is passing string "foo" because NUL terminates the string. You > cannot possibly get the answer you think is right here thus, unless you > reimplement `expr` as a zsh function. > > > > > In any case, it is easily demonstrated that the string is not 3 > characters > > long, by running 'echo "$V"' or 'print "$v"' or 'echo ${#v}' > > > > `zsh --version` = 'zsh 5.2 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu)' >