From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: from primenet.com.au (ns1.primenet.com.au [203.24.36.2]) by inbox.vuxu.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 515dfcd1 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2020 17:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8038 invoked by alias); 4 Jan 2020 17:43:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact zsh-workers-help@zsh.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes List-Id: Zsh Workers List List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: X-Seq: 45237 Received: (qmail 29965 invoked by uid 1010); 4 Jan 2020 17:43:10 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics: from mail-il1-f181.google.com by f.primenet.com.au (envelope-from , uid 7791) with qmail-scanner-2.11 (clamdscan: 0.102.1/25677. spamassassin: 3.4.2. Clear:RC:0(209.85.166.181):SA:0(-2.0/5.0):. Processed in 1.380068 secs); 04 Jan 2020 17:43:10 -0000 X-Envelope-From: roman.perepelitsa@gmail.com X-Qmail-Scanner-Mime-Attachments: | X-Qmail-Scanner-Zip-Files: | Received-SPF: pass (ns1.primenet.com.au: SPF record at _netblocks.google.com designates 209.85.166.181 as permitted sender) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=O1wnO7y10psE8TElgpDIn0G0OkD0GDRD4ELa2TOj+Xo=; b=QtvQJD1TiJgqW905vKkXk5gL6gJo9R1beGtGyLr4sUvptn4vCDp3k6eyFi3VdYXCDu gj/iMfWVsPE291J2OqVt+H0B5q9TSVOnDzhwvKj7MgBlSlh7CkGZLwM5+qx2f/EfYRlf No1SdlKHpVuDqVPG0IOxarF+Jd3ezh+kU36HRbmk88iN8ZtFKM57zqvQoLvETqgQCmWC htNppuR8Hq0iL/ouI7IwV8uej4KCULj/ikpLc0/MleHc0Njonxg2RodfQsoKvS4GJaDd wseCGDCuMhz40TKxFfJ4bzxXNBfA7qQSXBE02PqS9zS6JoU1WxXxaEILaRjNrNVMRcVU oNjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUlHKWy03eSRMwAgadRiTsba4k2UHvtgOGewsUyiDlhBJwOXQaa U/Pf2LiZcdk22Cba4avEnbSkS8JFjXa6YH+/madJyQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwD18O74yN11QyikvOayhvN95SNIjP1cr+K58lqVXsmvu6D5Fu9R17c7iBsZrtdFglcnd19rm1uNCpiTTRVnTc= X-Received: by 2002:a92:d642:: with SMTP id x2mr79698356ilp.169.1578159755815; Sat, 04 Jan 2020 09:42:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <63663202-4b1d-428a-b16b-5be1425e84ef@www.fastmail.com> <0C0C9775-59EE-4FBB-AB84-3E7FEF6E5024@dana.is> <186D63AE-2F2A-41C3-9E09-CEE0714E2B7F@dana.is> <12F64C78-BFA2-460C-80D4-921F22C72F78@dana.is> <1578063609.4581.6.camel@samsung.com> <20200103204856.bv6f3dkqhtrjm6vm@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> <54205248-124e-4e9a-942f-7ff0626791a6@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Roman Perepelitsa Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 18:42:24 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Official plugin manager? To: Daniel Shahaf Cc: Zsh hackers list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sat, Jan 4, 2020 at 6:36 PM Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Your argument boils down to saying you won't use the zle-line-init > feature for anything because some plugin has appropriated it for > itself. My argument is that binding keys the way I do it appears to me strictly better than the alternative even if there were no plugins, broken or otherwise. The fact that it's more robust in the fact of misbehaving plugins is a bonus. It's possible that I'm missing a downside of my approach, or an upside of the alternative. > As to making home and end work, that's not zshrc's job. I was suspecting that everyone already knows the right solution to this problem and I'm making a fool of myself describing my silly setup. What's the right way of doing it? Roman.