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Sat, 03 Sep 2022 17:09:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20220824043145.165779-1-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> <20220824043145.165779-4-felipe.contreras@gmail.com> <7779ec6b-10d5-410a-97da-5ec545cd6e1c@www.fastmail.com> <764a967b-86df-42bf-9242-22e9aeedfac6@www.fastmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Roman Perepelitsa Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2022 02:08:50 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] FAQ: sync newuser-install To: Felipe Contreras Cc: Mikael Magnusson , =?UTF-8?Q?Lawrence_Vel=C3=A1zquez?= , Bart Schaefer , zsh-workers@zsh.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Seq: 50598 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On Sun, Sep 4, 2022 at 2:00 AM Felipe Contreras wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 6:13 PM Roman Perepelitsa > wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 10:49 PM Felipe Contreras > > wrote: > > > > For starters this patch: > > > > > > https://www.zsh.org/mla/workers/2022/msg00875.html > > > > If I understand correctly, you propose to change this snipped in the guide: > > It's not a guide, it's a FAQ Mea culpa. > [...] the entry in the FAQ is "Why is my history not being saved?" Do you believe that your change makes the answer better? If so, why? I do not think it makes it better. > > HISTSIZE=200 > > SAVEHIST=200 > > > > With this: > > > > HISTSIZE=200 > > SAVEHIST=$HISTSIZE > > > > To me the original snippet looks better because it makes it clear that > > the two parameters are independent. > > The user does not *need* to know that at this point, all he/she needs > is an example that turns history save on. That's it. Do you believe that from this it follows that your change is making things better? Why? I do not think that it follows. Roman.