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[173.17.84.59]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y6sm2193311ily.50.2021.02.24.14.15.58 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Feb 2021 14:15:59 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.120.23.2.4\)) Subject: Re: Rewrite of zsh-newuser-install From: dana In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2021 16:15:58 -0600 Cc: Zsh hackers list Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Marlon Richert X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.120.23.2.4) X-Seq: 48114 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: Archived-At: On 20 Feb 2021, at 02:18, Marlon Richert = wrote: > it is a general principle of modern UX Design to give the user good > defaults, which they then can change later, rather than present them = with > lots of choices upfront Right, which is the point of this whole endeavour. idk, like i said, i'm = not invested in it personally, just wanted to mention that we don't seem to = know anything about how it's used in the real world. I wouldn't have known = Bart uses it On 20 Feb 2021, at 02:18, Marlon Richert = wrote: > I don=E2=80=99t know what is the =E2=80=9Crecommended-zshrc mechanism = (option 2)=E2=80=9D. How does > that work? Packagers can provide their own zshrc at = /etc/zsh/newuser.zshrc.recommended, which, if detected by the wizard, appears as an option on that initial = screen as 'the configuration recommended by the system administrator' On 20 Feb 2021, at 02:18, Marlon Richert = wrote: > Yes, I think that=E2=80=99s definitely a good idea. Is that just a = matter of asking > on their mailing lists? Axel is the maintainer for Debian, we've brought him in on the list here before. I can't remember the others we usually work with, Daniel would = know On 20 Feb 2021, at 02:18, Marlon Richert = wrote: > I would be fine with just using the XDG Base Dir spec for this, but = not > everyone seems to agree. Hence the question. It=E2=80=99s a = compromise. :) idk how strongly everyone feels about it, seemed like most people were = leaning towards it being non-critical dana