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From: Zefram <zefram@fysh.org>
To: Bart Schaefer <schaefer@candle.brasslantern.com>
Cc: zsh-workers@sunsite.dk
Subject: Re: "setopt noexec" and interactive shells
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:55:51 +0000 (GMT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E14ZkE3-00041Q-00@crucigera.fysh.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1010304052058.ZM13951@candle.brasslantern.com> from Bart Schaefer at "Mar 4, 2001 05:20:57 am"

Bart Schaefer wrote:
>I've noticed that bash won't honor "set -n" when the shell is interactive;
>but zsh will happily do so, leaving you with a useless prompt.

Experimentally, bash 2.04.12 does honour "set -n" fully.

>Perhaps a happy compromise would be to force "setopt exec" just before
>executing precmd?  Any reason to test e.g. `!justonce' before doing this?

I just think it's a bad idea.  "set -n" has perfectly well-defined
semantics, and we shouldn't ignore those semantics just because it's
probably not what the user wanted.  "set -n" is not fundamentally
incompatible with interactivity.

>Having just typo'd "set -n ..." for "sed -n ...",

Tee hee.  Of course, you could equally well have typoed "kill -9 $$"
for "kill -9 $!".

>+		opts[EXECOPT] = 1;

And if you're going to ignore "set -n", this is the wrong way to do it.
pdksh 5.2.12 does effectively ignore "set -n" interactively, but it
does this by allowing the option to be set (such that "n" appeans in
$-) but then ignoring the option's state if interactive.  Actually,
its condition for overriding is that the shell is interactive and the
default conditions for interactivity on startup were met -- a shell that's
explicitly made interactive when it would not otherwise have been does
honour "set -n" fully.

The other way to do this correctly -- other than ignoring it the way
pdksh does, that is -- is to make the option unsettable, like -i, under
the appropriate circumstances.  Silent resetting is not good.

-zefram


  reply	other threads:[~2001-03-05  1:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-03-04  5:20 Bart Schaefer
2001-03-05  1:55 ` Zefram [this message]
2001-03-25 22:51   ` Bart Schaefer
2001-03-25 23:05     ` Bart Schaefer
2001-03-27 18:09     ` Zefram
2001-03-27 19:12       ` Zefram
2001-03-30  6:37         ` Bart Schaefer
2001-03-27 19:18       ` Bart Schaefer
2001-03-27 19:25         ` Zefram
2001-03-27 19:58           ` Bart Schaefer

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