Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: zsh 4.0.1 released

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: zsh 4.0.1 released

[Clint Adams]

I'm assuming that we're branching off 4.0.x as stable and
leaving the main CVS trunk as 4.1.  Are we going to have
a forked ChangeLog or a ChangeLog-4.0?

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: zsh 4.0.1 released

[Peter Stephenson]

Peter Stephenson wrote:
> Version 4.0.1 of zsh, the Z-Shell, has been released.

Many thanks to everybody who contributed to this, who know who they are.

I still have to post announcments to comp.unix.shell (have to do that from
home) and freshmeat (trying to get ownership of the project registered
there, which is currently owned by `N/A' --- I'm guessing taking it over
won't be too hard).  Other than that, I think it's in the bag.

There's a tradition that something major breaks at the last minute and we
have to do another release immediately after.  If that doesn't happen by
the middle of next week --- by which time any problems are hearby declared
to be non-disastrous --- any patches being held off can go in.

At some point we will probably need to create a 4.1 branch.  I hadn't
intended doing this until there was some major change in the pipeline.
If anyone has some significant changes planned, we can create it any time.
But managing two branches is a pain in the neck if they're both just
getting small tweaks.

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: zsh 4.0.1 released

[Clint Adams]

> At some point we will probably need to create a 4.1 branch.  I hadn't
> intended doing this until there was some major change in the pipeline.
> If anyone has some significant changes planned, we can create it any time.
> But managing two branches is a pain in the neck if they're both just
> getting small tweaks.

I have some major breakage planned which likely has no business being
in the stable branch, so I'd prefer that 4.0 were tagged sooner than
later.  We were already maintaining 3.0 and 3.1 separately, just not
through CVS.

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: zsh 4.0.1 released

[Clint Adams]

> I have some major breakage planned which likely has no business being
> in the stable branch, so I'd prefer that 4.0 were tagged sooner than
> later.  We were already maintaining 3.0 and 3.1 separately, just not
> through CVS.

On the other hand, there's no pressing need to branch until just before 4.0.2
is to be released.

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: zsh 4.0.1 released

[Bart Schaefer]

On Jun 1,  1:42pm, Clint Adams wrote:
}
} On the other hand, there's no pressing need to branch until just before 4.0.2
} is to be released.

Right, 4.0.1 is tagged, so we can always create a branch off that point.
The only ugly part of "branch later" happens if we start adding files
(such as configure.ac ...).

On Jun 1,  6:50pm (really only 8 minutes later), Peter Stephenson wrote:
}
} OK, in that case I've created a branch called `zsh-4_0-patches' (after a
} botched attempt called `zsh-4_0_1-patches', ignore that).  We'll have to
} decide patch by patch what is important enough to go on that branch, but

Do you want me to take charge of that, like I've been doing for 3.0?
Or are you OK with it now that it's all in one repository?

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: zsh 4.0.1 released

[Peter Stephenson]

"Bart Schaefer" wrote:
> On Jun 1,  6:50pm (really only 8 minutes later), Peter Stephenson wrote:
> }
> } OK, in that case I've created a branch called `zsh-4_0-patches' (after a
> } botched attempt called `zsh-4_0_1-patches', ignore that).  We'll have to
> } decide patch by patch what is important enough to go on that branch, but
> 
> Do you want me to take charge of that, like I've been doing for 3.0?
> Or are you OK with it now that it's all in one repository?

I'm happy to do it now it's fairly straightforward, but if you have the
time and the inclination it would probably benefit from having a separate
coordinator.

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: zsh 4.0.1 released

[Peter Stephenson]

> I have some major breakage planned which likely has no business being
> in the stable branch, so I'd prefer that 4.0 were tagged sooner than
> later.  We were already maintaining 3.0 and 3.1 separately, just not
> through CVS.

OK, in that case I've created a branch called `zsh-4_0-patches' (after a
botched attempt called `zsh-4_0_1-patches', ignore that).  We'll have to
decide patch by patch what is important enough to go on that branch, but
for the time being, at least, everything will go on the main branch in any
case.

For those not familiar with this bit of CVS, to get this branch:
  cvs checkout -r zsh-4_0_patches zsh
will check it out with a `sticky' tag so that commits go back on that
branch.  The main (development) branch will be the default if you don't do
that.  You can also do tricks with `update' which can get rather nasty.

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: zsh 4.0.1 released

[Andrej Borsenkow]

Peter Stephenson wrote:


> 
> At some point we will probably need to create a 4.1 branch.


I mildly disagree. IMHO we need 4.0 branch while continue to work in 
HEAD (as was the case). This way any ongoing patches do not disturb 
"stable" code.

-andrej

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: zsh 4.0.1 released

[Peter Stephenson]

Andrej Borsenkow wrote:
> Peter Stephenson wrote:
> > At some point we will probably need to create a 4.1 branch.
> 
> 
> I mildly disagree. IMHO we need 4.0 branch while continue to work in 
> HEAD (as was the case). This way any ongoing patches do not disturb 
> "stable" code.

That's what I really meant, and that's what's happened.

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: zsh 4.0.1 released

[Adam Spiers]

Peter Stephenson (pws@csr.com) wrote:
> Peter Stephenson wrote:
> > Version 4.0.1 of zsh, the Z-Shell, has been released.
> 
> Many thanks to everybody who contributed to this, who know who they are.

Yep, congratulations to you all on a fantastic job.

> I still have to post announcments to comp.unix.shell (have to do that from
> home) and freshmeat (trying to get ownership of the project registered
> there, which is currently owned by `N/A' --- I'm guessing taking it over
> won't be too hard).  Other than that, I think it's in the bag.

Have you thought about slashdotting the announcement too?  It might
help bring the shell closer to having the audience it deserves.

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: zsh 4.0.1 released

[Bart Schaefer]

On Jun 2,  2:22pm, Adam Spiers wrote:
}
} Have you thought about slashdotting the announcement too?  It might
} help bring the shell closer to having the audience it deserves.

I think maybe we should fix the "make check" failure before we invoke
the slashdot effect.

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Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: zsh 4.0.1 released

[Andrej Borsenkow]

On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, Bart Schaefer wrote:

> On Jun 2,  2:22pm, Adam Spiers wrote:
> }
> } Have you thought about slashdotting the announcement too?  It might
> } help bring the shell closer to having the audience it deserves.
>
> I think maybe we should fix the "make check" failure before we invoke
> the slashdot effect.
>

In which case we better call it 4.0.1a or 4.0.2. I never liked different
tarballs of the same version. It is highly confusing.

Should it include autoconf-2.50 fix (or, better, hack)?

-andrej

Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: zsh 4.0.1 released

[E. Jay Berkenbilt]

>   In which case we better call it 4.0.1a or 4.0.2. I never liked different
>   tarballs of the same version. It is highly confusing.

If I may emerge from lurk mode for a moment wearing my version purist
hat, I'd strongly suggest calling 4.0.2.  There's no shame in
incrementing the version number.  There's a little bit of shame in
being inconsistent with the version number.  There's a lot of shame in
calling two different things the by same name.  There.  Now I can go
back into lurk mode.

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