From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 30966 invoked from network); 22 Oct 2021 04:49:29 -0000 Received: from zero.zsh.org (2a02:898:31:0:48:4558:7a:7368) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 22 Oct 2021 04:49:29 -0000 ARC-Seal: i=1; cv=none; a=rsa-sha256; d=zsh.org; s=rsa-20210803; t=1634878169; b=f1h7vT45ACsw296w3XM5JI6UGFGHv/bOrNpMKg+OzHhkztHz1lN/X81xy8eGEGiLe2UHZYXIwZ eCJv8sVkMx1IvIphTh/EBttoT4zCK4SnQMogzxwzN9JXnLcPMP0ctrF/cZsTqpf3LGQINxqqYg XBxCB4zV1YuQsmzyEfJqZKoi3la0PKt+Kx20/OoLToHiMnEo9aEIMSl+QaPCU0Fc228dLPebO1 LAcbxA5bNODNGmIbUj1m4Lm7PqiEsc1ZOA4j18c656auApF1F1GYYFn6TFDHcIJdyyxJ9FPOp+ IS4vH6yhwv6LLZNgq7QS8UZEl4DakDYP0MdjL3aAV7wx4g==; ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; zsh.org; iprev=pass (mail-40134.protonmail.ch) smtp.remote-ip=185.70.40.134; dkim=pass header.d=pm.me header.s=protonmail header.a=rsa-sha256; dmarc=pass header.from=pm.me; arc=none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=zsh.org; s=rsa-20210803; t=1634878169; bh=eIW4aSDmM1Kjl/lQl6zmRj7QvoO9BXj6E+janz+75YM=; h=List-Archive:List-Owner:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Help: List-Id:Sender:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Reply-To:Cc:From:To: DKIM-Signature:Date:DKIM-Signature; b=qBYeLBJRfcUYnqr/ibgydP4WxKfdAT85mXoHT5CaKZxMNTW1j3At8EbJgGmKARCFW7SGFj3Yig gVI2YiFa9/Ti5ePN5cadkAacfqKFxFdzlVNKJgeMnQVNIIRoqS50G03+fX90GIAiETbGUwySDG HWE0DUEwB7mUtcnDGC5tmu0zlH3a7gZrCQS+oHW2N/utvbZ2ZWZm0pSbiUr50NJEpxfUfTF82b ZJ0g+Zp9XKUol1o0P6z9JtiBw1XAyXIluU2rhgwC0JfwgsOuIAiyBsqcWU5E+/tLPcQh28Q/NF NmWiOGQliZabS7wSkfRVmkcZsTjzUD6D4C7EQEjfPYes3g==; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zsh.org; s=rsa-20210803; h=List-Archive:List-Owner:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Id:Sender:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Reply-To: Cc:From:To:Date:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID; bh=eIW4aSDmM1Kjl/lQl6zmRj7QvoO9BXj6E+janz+75YM=; b=ADgJz5gI06+4ckm8r/x46GOKv9 7/lEnIxo+frRsVZwxcafNSA+MDVLMGyaHkrqLUHA8OUArDYFATpzn7y5ucXnKYD8ELfva2z2CnDAw zgjXCcXoV3FN+TSnSeqqMVXaH/Hn648z4Oi0xUus9DXxyAjDNbEg2EE2rE6jjGgSzc33RQKaJppJe baB12WNeytTYW7QNTNO91wUt8dzYdgnnPzjAwbk9gIATm8Ihg/lyNBqxEtiU1l3vgejPpW7zCwrOA SRFzpfxCWEDQfm/K1BjeWnBZLB3KxKd9MxVLR7A/mL7u0ePc1Pfoe5m/R9cHeO3p6uot0Im89GrkZ E879utCw==; Received: from authenticated user by zero.zsh.org with local id 1mdmUj-000OHV-LC; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 04:49:29 +0000 Authentication-Results: zsh.org; iprev=pass (mail-40134.protonmail.ch) smtp.remote-ip=185.70.40.134; dkim=pass header.d=pm.me header.s=protonmail header.a=rsa-sha256; dmarc=pass header.from=pm.me; arc=none Received: from mail-40134.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.134]:37638) by zero.zsh.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) id 1mdmOm-000NEb-I0; Fri, 22 Oct 2021 04:43:20 +0000 Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2021 04:43:15 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pm.me; s=protonmail; t=1634877795; bh=eIW4aSDmM1Kjl/lQl6zmRj7QvoO9BXj6E+janz+75YM=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=X8S9W1W1FLXa6S8w2Jx6Zjmd6kjKTNM2ejyaxyLzsCH3+EW8ZCeiRgsfEvg0vIp/W WOn1Vc1H2YNb277NBjF5Hyl9THhSQEb73a8tZ7XOh7zNSv0t/XsH0brJTp9Hcchae8 geGLuSrHFuXX33gZJk5U2koVo+LpG2xanyFufeN65Q6ZEbr4nAyAKlRR/O5XAkwkWW qEfXeOVBRkh5GXa37l4OsiQdpA5O8H3FI1cYFfIAd6zT+nreiYwePMi3/xKI66qp7U K/MlTpGM1jAPNhweMzZi5T0q3pm5Wkxd5nOLgynj16EUYYcFjPQs69/adCHSJjGkZC Abu5288eekA8g== To: Bart Schaefer From: Jett Husher Cc: "zsh-workers@zsh.org" Reply-To: Jett Husher Subject: Re: Possibly missing explanation on difference between '&>' and '> word 2>&1' with multios in manual Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Seq: 49511 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: It took me some time and a lot of testing to finally get what the differenc= e is. It gets very tricky very quick with multiple multios, I think. While testing, I also noticed that zsh opens files in multio regardless of the access mode being used (manual says only writing counts). That is, `<>file*` or even `