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The corner-case you described > is more specific. Yes, it currently doesn't because HISTFILE isn't set by zsh by default. a startup file has to do this, but if > I actually think this should be the default, no need for *everyone* to specify this. the `this' here is setting HISTFILE, you will create a situation where unintentional data loss happens if zsh sets HISTFILE by default, a user increases SAVEHIST from the default and starts zsh without their dotfiles. Those three conditions would cause the shell to truncate HISTFILE back to the default value of SAVEHIST.