Re: Feedback on prototype reorganized Zsh website

[Clinton Bunch <cdb_zsh@zentaur.org>]

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On 10/29/2024 23:47, Clinton Bunch wrote:
> On 10/29/2024 23:33, Clinton Bunch wrote:
>> On 10/29/2024 22:37, Bart Schaefer wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 8:24 PM Bart Schaefer<schaefer@brasslantern.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2024 at 7:15 PM Clinton Bunch<cdb_zsh@zentaur.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/29/2024 20:39, Oliver Kiddle wrote:
>>>>>> it would be more consistent if we matched the font used in the Zsh logo
>>>>>> although that was somewhat custom.
>>>>> If someone can point me toward it, I'll try it as the header font.
>>>> I did that a few messages back:
>>>> https://online-fonts.com/fonts/arial-rounded-mt-bold
>>>>
>>>> It's not exact because the logo font was custom-designed, it's sort of
>>>> a horizontally-condensed look compared to Arial Rounded.
>>
>> It doesn't look like any version of Arial is a free font.  I think in 
>> order to use it as a webfont we'd have to purchase a license.
>>
>> From Microsoft Windows Font FAQ:
>>
>> Web fonts are fonts that are hosted on a web server. You do not have 
>> rights to:
>>
>>   * copy fonts from a Windows installation to a web server, a process
>>     known as web font “self-hosting”.
>>   * convert the font to the formats typically associated with web
>>     fonts, such as the WOFF or WOFF2 format.
>>
>>
>> We could specify it as part of the font "stack", but it would only 
>> show on systems that had the font installed locally.
>>
>>> If it needs to be from the Google catalog ...
>> Not so much specifically the Google Catalog, but they are all an open 
>> license.
>>> Bold variant of one of these:
>>> https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Kosugi+Maru?preview.text=ZSHELL%20Welcome%20To%20Z%20Shell&preview.size=41&script=Latn&categoryFilters=Sans+Serif:%2FSans%2FRounded
>> This one doesn't appear to have a bold variant and for some reason 
>> looks like something that would come out of a typewriter to me 
>> (though I think they all use a serif font, so I'm not sure why I get 
>> that feeling)
>>> https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Barlow+Condensed?preview.text=ZSHELL%20Welcome%20To%20Z%20Shell&preview.size=41&script=Latn&categoryFilters=Sans+Serif:%2FSans%2FRounded
>> I can try it on one of the pages and see how it looks.
> I put this at the top of the mailing list page.  Not crazy about it, 
> but it's not awful.
>>> Or perhaps this:
>>> https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Dangrek?preview.text=ZSHELL%20Welcome%20To%20Z%20Shell&preview.size=41&script=Latn&categoryFilters=Sans+Serif:%2FSans%2FRounded
>> This doesn't have a bold weight, but the regular weight font is 
>> pretty bold as is. We'll try it.
> This is on the Useful Links page.  I think it looks too playful. Not 
> Comic Sans playful, but still.
>
>
Here's the webfonts we've tried so far:

Crimson Pro (still my favorite) - https://zsh.clintonbunch.name/index.html

Barlow Condensed - https://zsh.clintonbunch.name/mlist.html

Dangrek - https://zsh.clintonbunch.name/links.html

Open Sans (same as body font, my favorite of the Sans Serif headers 
we've tried) - https://zsh.clintonbunch.name/Doc/index.html


It doesn't look to me like we're going to find a match (at least with an 
open license) to the Logo, and unless it's very close, I don't think the 
attempt will look good.  If someone has other suggestions, we can try them.

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