From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 1125 invoked from network); 21 Nov 2022 03:16:07 -0000 Received: from zero.zsh.org (2a02:898:31:0:48:4558:7a:7368) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 21 Nov 2022 03:16:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zsh.org; s=rsa-20210803; h=List-Archive:List-Owner:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Id:Sender:Content-Type:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date: References:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Mime-Version:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID; bh=wF5x8OL0raDj5te9qpJFzLyqxb5q+Lp+DLWQHIf/hY8=; b=ZzahyZVwYAzCvxkPbofpXgwhCz JBP43sBr1wNUmtzmLIYZBi75W2atnZPlhm4gRDvl8UXdz1J1npeI6jJHpAkYebYLdUz+0J3DD2DQ6 LqeyQ5d9K9YVf7c7eN9UjIKO/ZOJm6KcHJmvhSIhXFjteanSEkxpXb4QT8lM7RN20psgNu1eykdMR I4YakC0uJmax8LejCLBqP+/btGQ1eoiOA7V//SecSSo96GG0PzZNIedyMwfHXyToZSgQRzZYQScV0 QaJGgA6toGcjt7zi1jjbjDdfDuNFxubFKG6GnZ71a4+UyKjU9gp4CgsnACsNZ08YwNcQfJ6HKUURo 0YQEV8PQ==; Received: by zero.zsh.org with local id 1owxHz-000C9U-Ff; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 03:16:07 +0000 Received: by zero.zsh.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) id 1owxHh-000Bh0-19; Mon, 21 Nov 2022 03:15:49 +0000 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.46]) by mailauth.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA48327C0054; Sun, 20 Nov 2022 22:15:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from imap48 ([10.202.2.98]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Sun, 20 Nov 2022 22:15:46 -0500 X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvgedrheehgdehhecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepofgfggfkjghffffhvfevufgtsehttd ertderreejnecuhfhrohhmpefnrgifrhgvnhgtvgcugggvlhojiihquhgviicuoehlrghr rhihvhesiihshhdrohhrgheqnecuggftrfgrthhtvghrnhepleekheejgfdufeegkeeuge dugefhvedvleejheeiueffheevjefgheethfduvefhnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgep tdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomheplhgrrhhrhihvodhmvghsmhhtphgruhhthh hpvghrshhonhgrlhhithihqdduudehudekjeejtdegqdduudelvdejfeekhedqlhgrrhhr hihvpeepiihshhdrohhrghesfhgrshhtmhgrihhlrdgtohhm X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: iaa214773:Fastmail Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 501) id 942C131A0063; Sun, 20 Nov 2022 22:15:46 -0500 (EST) X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface User-Agent: Cyrus-JMAP/3.7.0-alpha0-1115-g8b801eadce-fm-20221102.001-g8b801ead Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <30a7e749-7f30-ecae-6479-a345b1682e7f@zentaur.org> References: <741b77be-b679-76cc-f8ec-49c9d89323c1@zentaur.org> <1e8ea669-7a25-b321-6024-72dbc43ac023@zentaur.org> <41205a86-8aad-4821-baa4-1d2ac9bf3c5d@app.fastmail.com> <1b2cafe6-b4b5-c59a-11f3-4dbc1e99e2bc@zentaur.org> <6275a5ac-3a47-f591-7b3c-380ec4fed5ac@zentaur.org> <3423b634-a7c3-9efc-92cd-b9b995ac1c27@zentaur.org> <30a7e749-7f30-ecae-6479-a345b1682e7f@zentaur.org> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2022 22:14:49 -0500 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Lawrence_Vel=C3=A1zquez?= To: "Clinton Bunch" Cc: zsh-workers@zsh.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] zsh/random module [UPDATED] Content-Type: text/plain X-Seq: 51008 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: , List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On Sun, Nov 20, 2022, at 9:57 PM, Clinton Bunch wrote: > I don't get the concern about backwards compatibility in implementing a > new builtin unless you know of an external command called getrandom that > is in common use, and that's easily fixed by changing it to zgetrandom. The concern is about publishing (and thus committing to) a complex API right out of the gate, only to later realize that it is inelegant and awkward, as opposed to starting with a minimal API and extending it later in a deliberate, considered fashion. -- vq