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Content-Language: en-US To: zsh-workers@zsh.org References: <19afce8d-8efe-5d9b-2fce-e0cabbf6d768@disroot.org> <8cc569f1-106d-4495-96b4-bd3fd92d430a@www.fastmail.com> <20220304131252.GB7687@tarpaulin.shahaf.local2> <7EC01F45-DDB2-4941-B576-8B560E7298A6@disroot.org> <20220310153702.GA18082@cventin.lip.ens-lyon.fr> <1858778006.301177.1646929881537@mail2.virginmedia.com> <846ae7a2-0f9e-a3ba-f37b-9cdb361e0af5@zentaur.org> <441ea678-3832-430f-af31-8d59bf9af22e@www.fastmail.com> From: Clinton Bunch In-Reply-To: <441ea678-3832-430f-af31-8d59bf9af22e@www.fastmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Seq: 49829 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On 3/10/2022 3:12 PM, Lawrence Vel=C3=A1zquez wrote: > On Thu, Mar 10, 2022, at 12:17 PM, Clinton Bunch wrote: >> A web page should mostly be left in the hands of the user > A nice thought, but in practice the vast majority of users only > ever see the defaults chosen by the website author. But some don't, like people who prefer dark backgrounds or need a 15pt=20 font to read.=C2=A0 Browsers have customizable defaults for a reason.=C2=A0= =20 Overriding those should require a reason other than it's what I like. > >> We are Unix people, a platform built on flexibility. You have created >> one of the most flexible shells in existence. (Which is why I've used >> it for 25+ years) The website should reflect that flexibility. > I do not think projecting the sensibilities of an operating system > onto a website is a recipe for making a good website. Flexibility is a key and often overlooked aspect to a website. People=20 have different width screens, so setting things in pixel (or character)=20 widths can make a web page look like crap.=C2=A0 It's quite frustrating w= hen=20 a website says "Best viewed at 1024x768" or some such. What fancy design do you see the Zsh Website needing?=C2=A0 Drop down men= us?=C2=A0=20 Floating ads?=C2=A0 The fanciest thing I can see us needing is a side bar= =20 with a width set in ems.=C2=A0 We don't need to control every aspect of t= he=20 user experience to get our message out there.