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From: dana <dana@dana.is>
To: "Daniel Shahaf" <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>
Cc: "Zsh hackers list" <zsh-workers@zsh.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] zsh/random module [UPDATED]
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2022 19:05:45 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f22e7d2c-3575-401d-bbb1-3cf7f1eefcbd@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aec52e64-dcd2-4893-8fca-4128e590e12b@app.fastmail.com>

On Wed 23 Nov 2022, at 17:54, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> Well, agreed on that last sentence, but note that «-c 1» in the patch
> means one byte, not one nibble.

Right, i misspoke

On Wed 23 Nov 2022, at 17:54, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> But 1 /is/ the default for integer mode, and I don't think anyone
> proposed to change that?  Rather, it was proposed to change the default
> for bytes mode from 4 bytes (8 nibbles) to 1 byte.  Do you reckon
> requesting 4 bytes
> should be the default for that mode, as opposed to, say, 1, 2, 8, or 64
> bytes?

The default for all modes was initially 8, so i was thinking of that as a
counter-proposal to them all being 1 as mentioned in the previous paragraph. I
think that no matter which number you choose, if you make it the same for all
modes, there's going to be at least one mode where it does something that is
rarely (or less) useful, like returning a single byte in raw or hex mode. But
i don't know how you'd quantify the usefulness of any particular alternative,
so i guess i'm just thinking out loud

On Wed 23 Nov 2022, at 17:54, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> To be clear, it's not 1/1.9M, which is about the probability of a random
> Londoner being at 10 Downing Street right now.  It's 1/[10 ** 1.9M],
> which is about the probability of correctly guessing the genders of all
> Londoners.

That sounds very nearly impossible to me

dana


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-24  1:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-02 17:13 [PATCH] zsh/random module Clinton Bunch
2022-11-03 17:50 ` Bart Schaefer
2022-11-04  3:17 ` dana
2022-11-04  6:22   ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-04  7:27     ` dana
2022-11-04 12:57       ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-08  0:18         ` [PATCH] zsh/random module [UPDATED] Clinton Bunch
2022-11-18 14:30           ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-19  6:42             ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-11-18 16:23           ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-18 17:08             ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-18 18:12               ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-18 18:38                 ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-23 19:52                   ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-11-24 16:19                     ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-24 16:30                       ` Roman Perepelitsa
2022-11-24 22:39                         ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-25  8:53                           ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-25  9:40                             ` Stephane Chazelas
2022-11-28 16:37                               ` further discussion of zsh/random (was [PATCH] zsh/random module [UPDATED]) Clinton Bunch
2022-11-21  1:07           ` [PATCH] zsh/random module [UPDATED] Matthew Martin
2022-11-21  1:59             ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-21  2:21               ` Matthew Martin
2022-11-21  2:57                 ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-21  3:14                   ` Lawrence Velázquez
2022-11-21  4:17                     ` Bart Schaefer
2022-11-21  5:05                       ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-22 13:42                         ` dana
2022-11-23 19:49                         ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-11-22 17:44                       ` Oliver Kiddle
2022-11-22 19:48                         ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-23  1:23                   ` Matthew Martin
2022-11-23  2:58                     ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-23  4:14                       ` Matthew Martin
2022-11-23 13:41                         ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-23 20:33                           ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-11-23 21:42                             ` dana
2022-11-23 23:54                               ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-11-24  0:17                                 ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-11-24  1:05                                 ` dana [this message]
2022-11-24 13:52                               ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-23 19:46           ` Daniel Shahaf
2022-11-24  2:58             ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-24 10:07               ` nimaje+zml
2022-11-24 13:19                 ` Clinton Bunch
2022-11-24 14:33             ` Clinton Bunch

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