From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 13638 invoked from network); 4 Oct 2022 00:46:29 -0000 Received: from zero.zsh.org (2a02:898:31:0:48:4558:7a:7368) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 Oct 2022 00:46:29 -0000 ARC-Seal: i=1; cv=none; a=rsa-sha256; d=zsh.org; s=rsa-20210803; t=1664844389; b=TRCFlk8wVrR7Pu9D1nBj8B3AIT2ZJ+FAXLOrT5WziZAOkmkNfnf6nWJkoXVfal6IsNHYL/94Pb ikyFLhZJ9mX2CIA5ko+juAFpWl5ENt9BsXwXvwYdRV6pk3haqil+t67ba+qboDDYYfHy3l5U7h O5RDi7P1W0ZYX7s71de5t8CL+VDMY2rjDGv8BXxRUGegQw37mazfRzJt12A3gfg8Z3CpMbxZ2j U5uc5E6f0hv8OMzigTkitQLAu25D2MayRApRP1sPxkIeIDiHb89kp9l9a8qYbRcNu/Jeq42znM u5knpUMuBP2JGIhPOkEg4z95Ns0O/za/+eI5w1nYLndpLw==; ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; zsh.org; iprev=pass (mail-40134.protonmail.ch) smtp.remote-ip=185.70.40.134; dkim=pass header.d=protonmail.com header.s=protonmail3 header.a=rsa-sha256; dmarc=pass header.from=protonmail.com; arc=none ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed; d=zsh.org; s=rsa-20210803; t=1664844389; bh=aCsdEcf2jnjLpW7oEt7+JCDko5ZKtKeppyxc87k4leI=; h=List-Archive:List-Owner:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Help: List-Id:Sender:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:From:To:DKIM-Signature:Date: DKIM-Signature; b=QwwxI9ozwomdqGA7EYZaBxJOCl6OpA8kjaMBBpAkHR8bxTlbUgsw5JUJ5rpOHt4cXHf1dOuyoh ApenclIVnFy5jgB5X2uYsm6aRoRh+evH6KUNvAkIcM9AyiEuqM+aubal2UYi1L4/w0BPUHqT7I U0C4Hb7PBxaGqCzJBP0ihasbWROb/2MQkHi27G91eOkMa7kL9Dnr8v//H0ik0GWXAuEM2UmhT4 aJrGVVh/zvAxKxcSHhSLozoVPKM+aAQ1BkOPoDdmToguHn7zCs1S5C7xqp5EKcQn4AdgD9Pde2 vYa2XpV7Zo6CPDXbEZYQ1d4Ek5ZXyl5D5F9mddfLOSVpDQ==; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=zsh.org; s=rsa-20210803; h=List-Archive:List-Owner:List-Post:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Id:Sender:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:From:To: Date:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID; bh=4v/Fx4fWGWkQbLZkvHNikT9kwmP19TbEKg8AcMV7DmY=; b=ZgfX73HXfyyGHxudUNZY+fTH9r hTffLo0sTCVFJ4LPyBH3Y2o0oqjmXG3RfnADM0wi/slgNet6nOYzdxn3YZJ5RMwwy3PNUhfaxV8Yw XxJRSgtPqj57asxgjeqvHKruyNgGqYQfiNmPhQhECy05+kMIrkfE9QaZQhlRAenksfv+MPNGGO53Z OXw499+t98o7kMpyOGAU/QsZzVHgjpDmofbbbYuQpybWHv4tFOHm+Q2u+gQaRr1EPgwrrOhukpgB6 iZlER/8SsjcQ/32d3wwRWS3ivaZl4fRbyaX03tzJQkWLPDRi/JO8LJYTF+VKS7KUo6YP1lPlJv0CP lHNmicsA==; Received: from authenticated user by zero.zsh.org with local id 1ofW4q-0009S7-CD; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 00:46:28 +0000 Authentication-Results: zsh.org; iprev=pass (mail-40134.protonmail.ch) smtp.remote-ip=185.70.40.134; dkim=pass header.d=protonmail.com header.s=protonmail3 header.a=rsa-sha256; dmarc=pass header.from=protonmail.com; arc=none Received: from mail-40134.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.134]:29261) by zero.zsh.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) id 1ofW4H-00096h-I8; Tue, 04 Oct 2022 00:45:54 +0000 Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2022 00:45:41 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1664844352; x=1665103552; bh=4v/Fx4fWGWkQbLZkvHNikT9kwmP19TbEKg8AcMV7DmY=; h=Date:To:From:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID; b=tjAMXrnItv2dg+daubKynKD7cQxlEKazhHv8jpti7eQuKS86d6DkY0rn0nWlM2jOv /e9ATL6CsQPw60pwenM/4eG7QH58sFGvDbSSMUwbovgzh0PuEyB4r8JAKBiCaOxh1B uExmaUqEj0ZGbcKpkl6372kNe9Uj5m7+vzV+akAf58chT+KhcZQLroVT6kUi+oJeYP xzwHrI07rosx9LylqQ6jl7T5mAsBKiWA8zfFD3miEzZOlU0Ki55RO+SfFqd+3CD3fU 6+b6VF0Kt3Z0zh3Y/M9fjj6IMihD+Tk43adnZP/fzOB8L5YPghddUv8IxciL8LuuDe VivP6Lo4QjU5g== To: zsh-workers@zsh.org From: Wesley Subject: Re: The request of words matter updated Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <6e0e440b-8e26-4a15-8f69-7b393aa6ff13@app.fastmail.com> <1142471274.1562947.1664268254401@mail.virginmedia.com> <9cf82892-e90a-4404-8b56-04b0046b9165@app.fastmail.com> <293717690.1711429.1664382844704@mail.virginmedia.com> <274355982.2028750.1664807113140@mail.virginmedia.com> Feedback-ID: 16775156:user:proton MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Seq: 50725 Archived-At: X-Loop: zsh-workers@zsh.org Errors-To: zsh-workers-owner@zsh.org Precedence: list Precedence: bulk Sender: zsh-workers-request@zsh.org X-no-archive: yes List-Id: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Owner: List-Archive: On 10/3/22 19:24, Eric Cook wrote: > On 10/3/22 10:25, Peter Stephenson wrote: >> >>> Once that's established, perhaps someone could arrange for an online vo= te >>> at one of the websites that do that? Given no technical change results >>> from any of this, opinion is all we've got, and there's evidently no >>> sign of a consensus. > > based on the participants of this thread thus far: > > nay - wesley - contributor You can change my stance to neutral. I'm not for it, but as stated in my e-mail I think IBM should drive the change (supply the patches) if they want the change to happen. Cheers, Wesley -- Wesley Schwengle