gmane and gmane.comp.shells.zsh.devel

gmane and gmane.comp.shells.zsh.devel

[Yuri D'Elia]

I always thought gmane.comp.shells.zsh.user and
gmane.comp.shells.zsh.devel were the same lists. Turns out
gmane.comp.shells.zsh.devel also receives posts from both zsh-users and
zsh-workers, which I find confusing.

Is this intentional? Is gmane really subscribed twice for .devel, or the
mailing list itself does the cross post?

Re: gmane and gmane.comp.shells.zsh.devel

[Stephane Chazelas]

2015-06-04 11:45:43 +0200, Yuri D'Elia:
> I always thought gmane.comp.shells.zsh.user and
> gmane.comp.shells.zsh.devel were the same lists. Turns out
> gmane.comp.shells.zsh.devel also receives posts from both zsh-users and
> zsh-workers, which I find confusing.
> 
> Is this intentional? Is gmane really subscribed twice for .devel, or the
> mailing list itself does the cross post?
[...]

gmane.comp.shells.zsh.devel is zsh-workers <at> zsh.org
gmane.comp.shells.zsh.user is zsh-users <at> zsh.org

The mailing lists are nested. That's described at
http://www.zsh.org/mla/

Articles posted to zsh-users go to the zsh-workers ML.

Now gmane seems to not always handle that gracefully. You'll
notice some posts to zsh-users have a:

Newsgroups: gmane.comp.shells.zsh.devel,gmane.comp.shells.zsh.user

header (cross-post), but not all. So, if you follow-up on
zsh.devel to an article posted to zsh-users, the answer will not
go to zsh-users.

I wonder how/when gmane adds those cross-post headers.

(I'm posting this answer on zsh.devel, I don't know if yours was
posted on users or workers).

-- 
Stephane

Re: gmane and gmane.comp.shells.zsh.devel

[Stephane Chazelas]

2015-06-04 11:38:19 +0100, Stephane Chazelas:
[...]
> I wonder how/when gmane adds those cross-post headers.
> 
> (I'm posting this answer on zsh.devel, I don't know if yours was
> posted on users or workers).
[...]

Well, here gmane doesn't strip the "To/Cc" headers, so I could
know.

See also
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.shells.zsh.user/4275/focus=7744
posted 2 days short of 10 years ago already mentioning the
same issue.

-- 
Stephane

Re: gmane and gmane.comp.shells.zsh.devel

[Yuri D'Elia]

On 06/04/2015 12:38 PM, Stephane Chazelas wrote:
> header (cross-post), but not all. So, if you follow-up on
> zsh.devel to an article posted to zsh-users, the answer will not
> go to zsh-users.

I see how that's useful, but well, I noticed only after years... ;)