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On Wed, 28 Sep 2022 06:30:56 +0000, Ellenor Bjornsdottir <ellenor@umbrellix.net> wrote:
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> Will this change actually harm anything - foreign libraries, etc?

Yes. It will create inconsistency and confusion.

> If not, then because it clearly benefits some people, the cost-benefit cal=
> culus favors change=2E
>
> I don't like it, but my opinion doesn't matter because the change harms no=
> thing=2E

Even if you see no harm: that attitude tends to lead to MIME garbage,
the careless dropping of 'Cc:'s, and top-posting.

Luckily, your response doesn't suffer from any of that, does it?

Pfew.

          --zeurkous. 

>
> On 28 September 2022 06:17:59 UTC, Felipe Contreras <felipe=2Econtreras@gm=
> ail=2Ecom> wrote:
>>On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 4:39 PM Mikael Magnusson <mikachu@gmail=2Ecom> wr=
> ote:
>>>
>>> On 9/27/22, Daniel Shahaf <d=2Es@daniel=2Eshahaf=2Ename> wrote:
>>> > -1 on the patch because I don't believe people who disagree with the
>>> > change feel comfortable saying so publicly=2E
>>>
>>> If a word is so bad that people don't want to say that they want to
>>> keep it, then we should not keep it=2E
>>
>>There's nothing "bad" about the word a priori=2E If *you* believe it has
>>to be changed, then *you* have the burden of proof=2E
>>
>>Just like any other change=2E
>>
>>--=20
>>Felipe Contreras
>>
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> <html><head></head><body>Will this change actually harm anything - foreign =
> libraries, etc?<br><br>If not, then because it clearly benefits some people=
> , the cost-benefit calculus favors change=2E<br><br>I don't like it, but my=
>  opinion doesn't matter because the change harms nothing=2E<br><br><div cla=
> ss=3D"gmail_quote">On 28 September 2022 06:17:59 UTC, Felipe Contreras &lt;=
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> <pre dir=3D"auto" class=3D"k9mail">On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 4:39 PM Mikael =
> Magnusson &lt;mikachu@gmail=2Ecom&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_=
> quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0=2E8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf=
> ; padding-left: 1ex;"><br> On 9/27/22, Daniel Shahaf &lt;d=2Es@daniel=2Esha=
> haf=2Ename&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
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> 1 on the patch because I don't believe people who disagree with the<br>chan=
> ge feel comfortable saying so publicly=2E<br></blockquote><br> If a word is=
>  so bad that people don't want to say that they want to<br> keep it, then w=
> e should not keep it=2E<br></blockquote><br>There's nothing "bad" about the=
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