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From: dana <dana@dana.is>
To: Sebastian Gniazdowski <sgniazdowski@gmail.com>
Cc: Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>,
	Zsh hackers list <zsh-workers@zsh.org>
Subject: Re: Official plugin manager?
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2020 19:36:09 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <186D63AE-2F2A-41C3-9E09-CEE0714E2B7F@dana.is> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKc7PVAPJQZSsOB8XFrA7PLaP8hyD+TmEQY2qoiA8MkXB6_6JQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 2 Jan 2020, at 18:25, Sebastian Gniazdowski <sgniazdowski@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think that this hits a wall of having a choice. "Hey, I just want a
> *reasonable* p-m to get all the plugins, as that's what actually
> matters, isn't it? Why do I have to decide on the p-m, if I'm going to
> do this properly then I'll at least enter 'best zsh plugin manager' in
> Google, and this means work, work, lost time and large impatience
> intake. And then the slight discomfort of not diving into the topic
> enough deep and deciding on a p-m mostly by its cool name - hey, am I
> really using the p-m that I should?"

Is the problem you're trying to solve 'people don't know which plug-in manager
to use' or 'people don't know how to configure zsh so they just install OMZ'?
The one you're describing here is the former. Once they *have* a plug-in
manager, they can install whatever they want, and they seem to want OMZ. (It's
even the first example in the Antigen documentation...)

On 2 Jan 2020, at 18:25, Sebastian Gniazdowski <sgniazdowski@gmail.com> wrote:
> OK, however, the sourcables-backend to zsh-newuser-install is IMO
> needed first. Then the install function could offer to append:
>
> zsh-pm pick=nodups.zsh param='size -> 10000' @history
>
> to the zshrc.

You've responded to me saying 'instead of providing fine control over the
profile set-up it could simply give them some good defaults' with 'OK, but
first we need to add more complexity in order to provide finer control over
the profile set-up'

Also, your example command is about 20 characters longer, and significantly
harder to read or to transfer into a broader understanding of how the shell
configuration works, than just setting it the normal way. How would this
address the difficulty me and Roman described re: not understanding the
implications of the wizard?

dana


  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-03  1:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-02  3:17 Sebastian Gniazdowski
2020-01-02  4:28 ` Eric Cook
2020-01-02 11:03 ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-01-02 11:37   ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2020-01-02 11:55     ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2020-01-02 21:30     ` dana
2020-01-03  0:25       ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2020-01-03  1:36         ` dana [this message]
2020-01-03  2:43           ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2020-01-03  2:45           ` Bart Schaefer
2020-01-03  3:26             ` dana
2020-01-03  5:13               ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2020-01-03 15:00               ` Peter Stephenson
2020-01-03 20:48                 ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-01-03 21:51                   ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-01-03 22:06                     ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-01-03 22:26                       ` Bart Schaefer
2020-01-03 22:37                       ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-01-04  0:42                         ` dana
2020-01-04  1:06                           ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-01-04 15:46                           ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-01-04 16:27                             ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-01-04 16:41                               ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-01-04 17:35                                 ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-01-04 17:42                                   ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-01-04 17:11                             ` Bart Schaefer
2020-01-05 10:40                               ` Oliver Kiddle
2020-01-06 17:47                   ` Leah Neukirchen
2020-01-03 11:15             ` Oliver Kiddle
2020-01-04  5:16               ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2020-01-04  6:00                 ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2020-01-02 12:00   ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-01-02 12:21     ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2020-01-02 12:27       ` Roman Perepelitsa

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