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From: Sebastian Gniazdowski <sgniazdowski@gmail.com>
To: Oliver Kiddle <okiddle@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: Bart Schaefer <schaefer@brasslantern.com>, dana <dana@dana.is>,
	 Daniel Shahaf <d.s@daniel.shahaf.name>,
	Zsh hackers list <zsh-workers@zsh.org>
Subject: Re: Official plugin manager?
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2020 06:16:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKc7PVAdR5C36DS0LHKVAceCcqNYhjRtmSwpUVTAWWt7Ci6+8g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7379-1578050123.754942@oZAF._NjJ.PSyK>

On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 at 12:15, Oliver Kiddle <okiddle@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> As for an official plugin manager, I think the idea has merits. I
> brought the idea up in users/22179 but there was little enthusiasm
> then.

Back then (it was 2016) the number of available plugins wasn't that of
today – now there are 492 plugins compared to 125 plugins in that year
(the # of themes went from 86 to 498) – according to the
awesome-zsh-plugins listing. And the quality of the plugins was very
low, I know that well because I've examined ~50 plugins from the list
to know for sure that the reporting in Zplugin will work. I cannot
tell how it's today with the quality, however, in general, it did
improve at least in the sense of having quite a few well-written ones,
like e.g.: themes (gitprompt, powerlevel10k, agkozak, zinc, etc.).

> And I had different problems in mind than those outlined by
> Sebastian: for all its popularity and multitudes of "contributors",
> OMZ has a quality problem. Contributions are largely forgotten once
> accepted because ownership is transferred. They don't make good use of
> autoloading, possibly run compinit more than once with changed $fpath
> and don't seem to encourage the use of things like add-zsh-hook.

They also return the values from functions not through REPLY/reply but
via echo, like here:

https://github.com/ohmyzsh/ohmyzsh/blob/master/lib/git.zsh

> The plugin standard and documentation of it determines those things.

I hope that the standard will be made some use if the bundled p-m
project would be to start.
--
Sebastian Gniazdowski
News: https://twitter.com/ZdharmaI
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Blog: http://zdharma.org

  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-04  5:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-02  3:17 Sebastian Gniazdowski
2020-01-02  4:28 ` Eric Cook
2020-01-02 11:03 ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-01-02 11:37   ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2020-01-02 11:55     ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2020-01-02 21:30     ` dana
2020-01-03  0:25       ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2020-01-03  1:36         ` dana
2020-01-03  2:43           ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2020-01-03  2:45           ` Bart Schaefer
2020-01-03  3:26             ` dana
2020-01-03  5:13               ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2020-01-03 15:00               ` Peter Stephenson
2020-01-03 20:48                 ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-01-03 21:51                   ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-01-03 22:06                     ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-01-03 22:26                       ` Bart Schaefer
2020-01-03 22:37                       ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-01-04  0:42                         ` dana
2020-01-04  1:06                           ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-01-04 15:46                           ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-01-04 16:27                             ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-01-04 16:41                               ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-01-04 17:35                                 ` Daniel Shahaf
2020-01-04 17:42                                   ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-01-04 17:11                             ` Bart Schaefer
2020-01-05 10:40                               ` Oliver Kiddle
2020-01-06 17:47                   ` Leah Neukirchen
2020-01-03 11:15             ` Oliver Kiddle
2020-01-04  5:16               ` Sebastian Gniazdowski [this message]
2020-01-04  6:00                 ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2020-01-02 12:00   ` Roman Perepelitsa
2020-01-02 12:21     ` Sebastian Gniazdowski
2020-01-02 12:27       ` Roman Perepelitsa

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