From: "boyd, rounin" <boyd@insultant.net>
To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Cc: "Fredrik Juhlin" <laz@strakt.com>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful?
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:59:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <002401c346b0$ca44c9c0$b9844051@insultant.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200307100610.h6A6AaBt072083@ducky.net>
> I think the root of the problem is that in Unix-family operating
> systems (including Plan 9) the shell and utilities have tried to
> serve two different masters, which is always hard.
internationalisation is hard. forget about french; all those diacritical
marks are just the same as ' in english -- used to replace 'missing'
characters:
hôpital = hospital 'cos the ô = os
whereas in swedish they have 3 extra real vowels. sure they have
diacritical marks but they are _real characters_ with a collating
sequence and a nasty set of pronounciation rules.
take iso latin 1: sure, you have all the chars but it depends on
_where_ you are as:
Fredrik (listen to me) Juhlin <laz@strakt.com>
pointed out to me and i had to rethink my internationalisation thoughts.
and, yeah, he was right.
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Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-07-09 18:19 ron minnich
2003-07-09 18:26 ` Scott Schwartz
2003-07-09 19:39 ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-09 19:45 ` Dan Cross
2003-07-09 20:05 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-07-09 20:09 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-07-09 20:34 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-07-09 21:08 ` Vincent van Gelderen
2003-07-09 20:31 ` Sam
2003-07-09 21:35 ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-09 22:04 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-07-09 22:31 ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 1:11 ` ron minnich
2003-07-10 1:17 ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-09 20:14 ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-09 20:31 ` Dan Cross
2003-07-09 20:25 ` Dan Cross
2003-07-10 6:10 ` Mike Haertel
2003-07-10 6:59 ` boyd, rounin [this message]
2003-07-09 22:01 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-07-09 22:28 ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-09 22:54 ` OT lunix rants (Was: [9fans] Fork: useless and painful?) andrey mirtchovski
2003-07-09 23:26 ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 6:15 ` [9fans] Fork: useless and painful? Mike Haertel
2003-07-10 6:51 ` Geoff Collyer
2003-07-10 7:22 ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 8:59 ` Derek Fawcus
2003-07-11 11:24 ` Alexis S. L. Carvalho
2003-07-09 18:36 ` Dan Cross
2003-07-09 19:35 ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 14:59 ` rog
2003-07-10 16:47 ` David Presotto
2003-07-10 19:36 ` Stephen Wynne
2003-07-10 19:57 ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-10 20:06 ` Stephen Wynne
2003-07-10 20:16 ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-11 0:05 ` David Presotto
2003-07-11 15:01 ` ron minnich
2003-07-14 8:51 ` John Kodis
2003-07-14 13:24 ` Lucio De Re
2003-07-14 13:58 ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-14 15:20 ` ron minnich
2003-07-11 2:01 Andrew Simmons
2003-07-11 2:17 ` David Presotto
2003-07-11 2:29 ` boyd, rounin
[not found] ` <presotto@closedmind.org>
2003-07-13 19:44 ` Andrew Lynch
2003-07-11 2:32 ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-11 10:59 ` matt
2003-07-11 4:46 Andrew Simmons
2003-07-11 5:14 ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-11 6:21 ` northern snowfall
2003-07-11 5:43 ` boyd, rounin
2003-07-11 8:52 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2003-07-11 13:27 ` D. Brownlee
2003-07-31 21:07 Joel Salomon
2003-07-31 22:19 ` Dan Cross
2003-08-01 3:00 ` Joel Salomon
2003-08-01 14:42 ` Jack Johnson
2003-08-01 22:26 ` Jim Choate
2003-08-02 8:05 ` Jack Johnson
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