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From: erik quanstrom <quanstro@quanstro.net>
To: 9fans@9fans.net
Subject: Re: [9fans] web-based plan 9?
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:18:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <031b381fadb797cae6506e8db8b1285f@quanstro.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e1d437a40811210905h3472f836rc3d61fb323a30ba4@mail.gmail.com>

>    - a "ctrl" file which accept only COMMIT, ROLLBACK and ABORT
>    - an "error" file
>    - a "notice" file (postgresql has RAISE NOTICE... may be others have it
>    too)
>    - a "data" file (append only in the transaction, but not outside) where
>    the INSERT, UPDATES, DELETE and all the DDL and DCL commands will be written
>    - each SELECT have to be written in a different file (named

databases seem pretty far outside 9fans territory and design
on a mailing list doesn't seem like a good idea  ... but anway,
i hope this comment is more strategy than design and a bit
more general.

since a relational database isn't imperative thing, i have never
understood having a imperative interface to one, especially an
unconstrained interface.  if you have a problem big enough to
warrant a database, it will get refactored, rekeyed, renormaled &c.  it's
quite unattractive to have a database reorganization escape
and force changes in imperative code.  i think a declarative
interface would make much more sense — as in i want a new
user fred with properties x, y, z instead of begin transaction ....
if you're going to put up with a database, it needs be a big boy
and take care of itself.  would you put up with a file system
that required you to do the locking and inode allocation yourself?

- erik




  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-21 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-20  1:35 Pietro Gagliardi
2008-11-20 14:25 ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-11-20 14:37   ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2008-11-20 14:47     ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-11-20 15:07       ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2008-11-20 15:16         ` Eric Van Hensbergen
2008-11-20 15:21           ` Francisco J Ballesteros
2008-11-20 14:51     ` erik quanstrom
2008-11-20 18:59   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-11-20 19:25     ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-11-20 22:15     ` Giacomo Tesio
2008-11-20 23:18       ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-11-21  5:19         ` lucio
2008-11-21 10:15         ` Giacomo Tesio
2008-11-21 11:55           ` matt
2008-11-21 14:01             ` Tom Lieber
2008-11-21 14:34               ` matt
2008-11-21 15:13                 ` Giacomo Tesio
2008-11-21 15:53                   ` matt
2008-11-21 16:05                     ` erik quanstrom
2008-11-21 17:05                     ` Giacomo Tesio
2008-11-21 17:18                       ` erik quanstrom [this message]
2008-11-22 20:15                         ` Giacomo Tesio
2008-11-21 17:24                       ` matt
2008-11-21 18:12           ` a

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