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From: "David Butler" <gdb@dbSystems.com>
To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] java
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 10:24:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <033d01c2ff75$68107240$644cb2cc@kds> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0304100858340.30069-100000@maxroach.lanl.gov>

> > is currently anybody porting java?
>
> Well, if they are, let's get them to stop!

I started this once, a long time ago, and I have to
agree with Ron, it had to be stopped.

Java as a language is not all bad. But, for Java to
be useful to those that *know how to program in
Java*, requires the class libraries, including the ones
that support the computing environment and networking.
This is the VERY BAD part. Java virtualizes a POSIX
"computer" with "socket" networking. Why would one
want this anywhere near Plan 9? I thought of ripping
that stuff out and replacing it with the Plan 9 equivalents,
but then it would not be "Pure Java" and would be unusable.

Linux is the perfect platform for Java.

If you want the network language type thing that
Java promises (but hasn't delivered), then you want
Limbo and Inferno from www.vitanuova.com.

David



  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-10 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-10  5:19 peter a. cejchan
2003-04-10 14:58 ` ron minnich
2003-04-10 15:24   ` David Butler [this message]
2003-04-11  5:44     ` C H Forsyth
2003-04-11  1:16 okamoto
2003-04-11  8:12 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2003-04-11  9:04 ` Bruce Ellis
2003-04-11  9:08   ` will551
2003-04-16 12:55 peter a. cejchan
2004-03-02  0:59 [9fans] Java matt
2004-03-02 13:46 ` Michael Jeffrey
2006-02-07 20:21 [9fans] java bituman
2006-02-07 20:36 ` andrey mirtchovski
2006-02-07 20:42 ` uriel
2006-02-07 20:48 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2006-02-07 20:56   ` Skip Tavakkolian
2008-01-16 23:54 [9fans] Java Pietro Gagliardi
2008-01-17  0:19 ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-01-17  1:04   ` Yaroslav
2008-01-17  1:58     ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-01-17  2:00       ` Pietro Gagliardi
2008-01-17  2:05       ` Iruata Souza
2008-01-17  3:48         ` Federico G. Benavento
2008-01-17  4:19           ` Bruce Ellis
2008-01-17  8:29             ` Charles Forsyth
2008-01-17  9:03               ` Bruce Ellis
2008-01-17  8:34         ` Charles Forsyth
2008-01-17  8:32           ` Robert William Fuller
2008-01-17 17:48 ` Latchesar Ionkov

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