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From: EBo <ebo@sandien.com>
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs <9fans@9fans.net>
Subject: Re: [9fans] nupas update
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 19:52:09 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0666415404bd7d49e9a122f364b96fbd@swcp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <425b6f8428135ee0c1c1358eb08750a9@kw.quanstro.net>


> i think it's a good question but lacking time travel or a working
> 64-bit kernel, this question is unknowable. :-)

;-)  After thinking about it I think amd might have been a better example

>> > please, no use flags.  we can't test what we've got.  use
>> > flags make the problem go factorial.  (gentoo for example
>> > doesn't work if you set the profile use flag.)
>>
>> Now we are getting to the heart of a very important matter.  I agree
that
>> use flags causes the dependency graph to go factorial -- but pruned to
>> the
>> number of use flags implemented in each ebuild (so it is not factorial
to
>> the number of accepted use flags).
>
> if each package has only n use flags, then you still have
> 2^n^m options, where m is the number of packages.
>
> proof: each use flag may be on or off.  if we order the use
> flags for a package arbitrarly, we can think of them as binary
> digits and there would be 2^n possible values.  since there
> are m packages, we can consider this an m digit number with
> each digit taking the value 0 ... 2^n-1.
>
> if they don't all have the same use flags, we can redo this.
> if for package k, there are k_n use flags we would have
> 2^{k_0}2^{k_1} ... =
> 	2^(sum k_i}
>
> which i'll grant isn't factorial.  but it's still 2^{sum of use flags
> per package}. :-)
>
> i'll give you that this isn't factorial.  :-)  but on the other hand,
> if a package might not be installed at all, that's like another use
> flag.

and without use flags I end up having k*m packages instead of m.  So the
question still comes to do I write it to allow 2^n^m possible combinations
and document the two most common scenarios, or write 2*m package variants
and leave it to the interested to populate any of the remaining 2^{k-2}
permutations.  I'm still undecided, but I know then kinds of bugs that
creep up when splitting trees like that.  (I guess like splitting hairs ;-)

  EBo --




  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-17  1:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-03  2:16 erik quanstrom
2009-09-03  2:29 ` David Leimbach
2009-09-03  2:37   ` erik quanstrom
2010-05-15 23:17 ` Akshat Kumar
2010-05-15 23:45   ` erik quanstrom
2010-05-16  2:36     ` ron minnich
2010-05-16  4:15       ` erik quanstrom
2010-05-16  4:28       ` Akshat Kumar
2010-05-16  4:35         ` ron minnich
2010-05-16  4:39           ` erik quanstrom
2010-05-16  4:51             ` ron minnich
2010-05-16  4:57           ` Akshat Kumar
2010-05-16  5:44             ` ron minnich
2010-05-16 13:42               ` EBo
2010-05-16 14:03                 ` erik quanstrom
2010-05-16 14:51                   ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-05-16 15:37                     ` EBo
2010-05-16 15:53                       ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-05-16 16:02                         ` ron minnich
2010-05-16 17:10                           ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-05-16 17:19                           ` EBo
2010-05-16 15:21                   ` EBo
2010-05-16 15:42                     ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-05-16 17:34                       ` EBo
2010-05-16 17:47                         ` hiro
2010-05-16 18:58                         ` Corey
2010-05-16 19:29                           ` EBo
2010-05-18 21:35                           ` Georg Lehner
2010-05-18 22:07                             ` ron minnich
2010-05-16 15:46                     ` Jorden M
2010-05-16 15:59                       ` Ethan Grammatikidis
2010-05-16 15:42                   ` Jorden M
2010-05-16 18:24                     ` erik quanstrom
2010-05-16 18:49                       ` EBo
2010-05-16 20:44                         ` erik quanstrom
2010-05-16 21:44                           ` EBo
2010-05-17  1:17                             ` erik quanstrom
2010-05-17  1:52                               ` EBo [this message]
2010-05-17  1:58                                 ` erik quanstrom
2010-05-17  1:35               ` Akshat Kumar
2010-05-17  4:09                 ` ron minnich
2010-05-17  4:19                   ` erik quanstrom
2010-05-17  4:56                     ` ron minnich
2010-05-18 23:50                   ` Federico G. Benavento
2010-05-18 23:59                     ` ron minnich
2010-05-19  0:40                       ` Jorden M
2010-05-19  1:40                         ` Robert Ransom
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-08-06 15:23 erik quanstrom
2008-10-23  0:08 erik quanstrom

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