* [9fans] utf-8
@ 2016-02-07 2:04 Bruce Ellis
2016-02-07 5:42 ` Skip Tavakkolian
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From: Bruce Ellis @ 2016-02-07 2:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
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Not to burst a balloon but check out variable length ints in the Midi File
Format for utf-8 in the early 80s.
brucee
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* Re: [9fans] utf-8
2016-02-07 2:04 [9fans] utf-8 Bruce Ellis
@ 2016-02-07 5:42 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2016-02-08 1:09 ` Bruce Ellis
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From: Skip Tavakkolian @ 2016-02-07 5:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
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but following that line of reasoning, aren't they all specialized versions
of Huffman encoding?
On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 6:04 PM Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not to burst a balloon but check out variable length ints in the Midi File
> Format for utf-8 in the early 80s.
>
> brucee
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* Re: [9fans] utf-8
2016-02-07 5:42 ` Skip Tavakkolian
@ 2016-02-08 1:09 ` Bruce Ellis
2016-02-08 13:48 ` Anthony Sorace
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From: Bruce Ellis @ 2016-02-08 1:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
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Yes. But the midi version is utf-8.
brucee
On 7 February 2016 at 16:42, Skip Tavakkolian <skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com>
wrote:
> but following that line of reasoning, aren't they all specialized versions
> of Huffman encoding?
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 6:04 PM Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Not to burst a balloon but check out variable length ints in the Midi
>> File Format for utf-8 in the early 80s.
>>
>> brucee
>>
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* Re: [9fans] utf-8
2016-02-08 1:09 ` Bruce Ellis
@ 2016-02-08 13:48 ` Anthony Sorace
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From: Anthony Sorace @ 2016-02-08 13:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
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It isn't. MIDI variable-length quantities don't include an indication of length in a header, and the last byte in any multi-byte sequence is a valid single-byte value. It is more bit efficient than UTF-8, but I believe it lacks other properties around synchronization, possibly others.
I'm less sure here, but I believe the MIDI version is more similar to the thing the X/Open folks were considering before UTF-8 supplanted it.
> On Feb 7, 2016, at 20:09, Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yes. But the midi version is utf-8.
>
> brucee
>
>> On 7 February 2016 at 16:42, Skip Tavakkolian <skip.tavakkolian@gmail.com> wrote:
>> but following that line of reasoning, aren't they all specialized versions of Huffman encoding?
>>
>>
>>> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 6:04 PM Bruce Ellis <bruce.ellis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Not to burst a balloon but check out variable length ints in the Midi File Format for utf-8 in the early 80s.
>>>
>>> brucee
>
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