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From: David Presotto <presotto@closedmind.org>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: some #s
Date: Thu,  5 Jun 2003 20:25:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <13fe0dc8b3e09c208c83d277b439089b@plan9.bell-labs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0306051802450.9676-100000@einstein.ssz.com>

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We don't zero pages till we're going to give them to another process.
If you want to feel safe after doing something really secret, I'ld recommend
power cycling at the least.  Choate is completely right here.

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From: Jim Choate <ravage@einstein.ssz.com>
To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: [9fans] Re: some #s
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 18:06:04 -0500 (CDT)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0306051802450.9676-100000@einstein.ssz.com>


On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Dan Cross wrote:

> Which, as I stated, is irrelevant since we're talking about Plan 9.

Which has yet to go through a professional level vetting. About the best
that can be said for it was what was published in "Maximum Security".

> Which programmers are those?  The OS programmers, or the application
> programmers?  My whole point was that what the application programmers
> did was irrelevant.

Really? Talk to some crypto programmers some time. I think they'd disagree
with you a great deal on that one. The reality is that memory leakage via
apps -is- a major concern for real world security issues. OS'es don't have
the best record in that regard either.

I'd suggest arXiv or SiteSeer as a start. You can also take a look at the
NSA version of Linux.


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      We are all interested in the future for that is where you and I
      are going to spend the rest of our lives.

                              Criswell, "Plan 9 from Outer Space"

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-06  0:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-04  4:21 [9fans] " ron minnich
2003-06-04  4:45 ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-06-04 14:31   ` ron minnich
2003-06-04 11:27 ` C H Forsyth
2003-06-04 14:39   ` ron minnich
2003-06-04 15:39     ` andrey mirtchovski
2003-06-04 21:20     ` northern snowfall
2003-06-04 23:06       ` [9fans] " Jim Choate
2003-06-05  0:24         ` northern snowfall
2003-06-05  3:20           ` Dan Cross
2003-06-05 11:33             ` Jim Choate
2003-06-05 22:41               ` Dan Cross
2003-06-05 23:06                 ` Jim Choate
2003-06-06  0:25                   ` David Presotto [this message]
2003-06-06  1:08                     ` Dan Cross
2003-06-06  1:19                       ` David Presotto
2003-06-06  3:58                         ` northern snowfall
2003-06-06  3:41                           ` ron minnich
2003-06-06 11:36                             ` Jim Choate
2003-06-06  4:04                           ` northern snowfall
2003-06-06 12:01                         ` Jim Choate
2003-06-06 12:02                           ` David Presotto
2003-06-06  1:21                       ` boyd, rounin
2003-06-06  2:24                       ` Russ Cox
2003-06-06  3:15                         ` Dan Cross
2003-06-06  4:17                           ` northern snowfall
2003-06-06  3:33                             ` Dan Cross
2003-06-06  4:45                               ` northern snowfall
2003-06-06  5:46                                 ` Dan Cross
2003-06-06  9:48                                   ` northern snowfall
2003-06-06  3:51                             ` boyd, rounin
2003-06-06 15:45                     ` Jack Johnson
2003-06-05  3:20       ` [9fans] " ron minnich
2003-06-04 16:46 ` jmk
2003-06-04 22:38   ` ron minnich

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