From: Kenji Okamoto <okamoto@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Evolving rio / GUI development
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 11:54:16 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1831e14deca9e2a1e4c2c185f4979bcd@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <962b4a2fb58f2be0e8d55088767168d5@plan9.escet.urjc.es>
> Regarding the UIs,
> we have what we call omero (another experiment), it's a mixture of
> a window-toolkit and a file server, that handles all the graphics by
> its own. The application creates files to build its UI, and the fs takes
> care of the mouse and everything else. This allows you to replicate
> and move around UI components without placing the burden in the
> application.
How do you think that recent GUI programming style is too difficult
to understand for non-computer science students. We need GUI
only for user interface, and it should be very easy to deal with, and
can be used from all of the languages without special enbedded portion
of those tools.
Once upon a time, programming was a fan for many scientists because
it was not so difficult. They have to just care of the precisenenss of
their own parts. Now a days, I think most of them are buying some
commercial products and students don't know how to make it from
scratch. It will soon make this world darker I fear.
Does your Plan B help such?
Kenji
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-02-21 2:54 UTC|newest]
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2005-02-16 17:45 g01495
2005-02-16 17:56 ` Russ Cox
2005-02-16 19:15 ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-16 19:44 ` McLone
2005-02-17 5:50 ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-17 7:07 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-17 17:15 ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-17 17:30 ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-17 17:36 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-17 17:42 ` boyd, rounin
2005-02-17 17:47 ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-17 17:53 ` Russ Cox
2005-02-17 22:21 ` [9fans] writing code rog
2005-02-17 22:29 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-18 1:27 ` Russ Cox
2005-02-18 4:48 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-18 4:51 ` lucio
2005-02-18 18:22 ` rog
2005-02-18 19:05 ` Paul Lalonde
2005-02-18 19:21 ` rog
2005-02-20 18:14 ` [9fans] Second class citizenship (Was: writing code) Lucio De Re
2005-02-20 18:24 ` boyd, rounin
2005-02-20 18:33 ` Lucio De Re
2005-02-20 18:37 ` boyd, rounin
2005-02-20 20:36 ` Joel Salomon
2005-02-21 4:30 ` lucio
2005-02-21 7:03 ` Bruce Ellis
2005-02-21 16:59 ` rog
2005-02-22 3:59 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-22 4:34 ` lucio
2005-02-22 5:09 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-21 7:10 ` [9fans] writing code Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-21 7:26 ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-21 7:48 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-21 8:00 ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-21 23:49 ` rog
2005-03-01 1:30 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-21 10:08 ` Richard Miller
2005-02-21 10:09 ` Steve Simon
2005-02-18 21:09 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-18 4:58 ` Paul Lalonde
2005-02-18 5:12 ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-02-18 14:57 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-18 5:01 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-18 19:34 ` Tim Newsham
2005-02-18 19:49 ` David Leimbach
2005-02-18 19:59 ` Christopher Nielsen
2005-02-18 21:36 ` rog
2005-02-18 22:14 ` Christopher Nielsen
2005-02-19 9:15 ` David Leimbach
2005-02-19 20:20 ` Bruce Ellis
2005-05-08 16:15 ` Ralph Corderoy
2005-02-17 22:52 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-02-17 23:12 ` rog
2005-02-17 22:52 ` Christopher Nielsen
2005-02-17 23:02 ` boyd, rounin
2005-02-18 0:20 ` jmk
2005-02-18 0:54 ` boyd, rounin
2005-02-17 23:04 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-17 23:07 ` rog
2005-02-17 23:17 ` Christopher Nielsen
2005-02-17 23:33 ` rog
2005-02-17 23:42 ` Russ Cox
2005-02-18 0:07 ` Steve Simon
2005-02-18 1:20 ` Russ Cox
2005-02-18 9:53 ` C H Forsyth
2005-02-18 12:17 ` boyd, rounin
2005-02-18 4:21 ` Russ Cox
2005-02-18 16:03 ` rog
2005-02-18 16:04 ` rog
2005-02-18 18:52 ` rog
2005-02-18 19:01 ` Russ Cox
[not found] ` <53b78d28ce9ff18f6dc22cc280fc92ef@quintile.net>
2005-02-21 15:54 ` Russ Cox
2005-02-18 19:50 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-02-18 20:42 ` rog
2005-02-18 20:32 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-02-18 21:06 ` rog
2005-02-18 21:49 ` McLone
2005-02-18 11:04 ` [9fans] Evolving rio / GUI development Fco. J. Ballesteros
2005-02-18 12:29 ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-21 2:54 ` Kenji Okamoto [this message]
2005-02-21 8:04 ` Bruce Ellis
2005-02-21 8:24 ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-21 14:01 ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-21 14:35 ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2005-02-22 1:16 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-22 2:04 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-22 8:21 ` Matthias Teege
2005-02-21 14:36 ` Gorka Guardiola
2005-02-21 15:52 ` lucio
2005-02-22 0:37 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2005-02-21 23:52 ` Chesky Salomon
2005-02-22 2:27 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2005-02-22 4:12 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-21 15:20 ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-21 16:01 ` lucio
2005-02-22 8:07 ` Matthias Teege
2005-02-22 13:52 ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-22 14:00 ` boyd, rounin
2005-02-22 14:10 ` David Tolpin
2005-02-22 14:15 ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-22 15:25 ` David Tolpin
2005-02-22 17:47 ` lucio
2005-02-22 14:09 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-02-23 5:55 ` Martin C.Atkins
2005-02-22 10:26 ` Gorka Guardiola
2005-02-22 17:33 ` lucio
2005-02-22 19:40 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2005-02-22 19:56 ` Bruce Ellis
2005-02-23 0:17 ` C H Forsyth
2005-02-23 10:29 ` fgergo
2005-02-23 11:22 ` Bruce Ellis
2005-02-23 3:47 ` lucio
2005-02-23 13:17 ` Rob Pike
2005-02-23 13:19 ` Gorka Guardiola
2005-02-23 13:39 ` Bruce Ellis
2005-02-23 13:43 ` Brantley Coile
2005-02-23 15:31 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-23 15:37 ` Rob Pike
2005-02-23 15:53 ` Bruce Ellis
2005-02-23 16:06 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-23 16:18 ` Bruce Ellis
2005-02-23 17:37 ` Skip Tavakkolian
2005-02-23 16:19 ` David Leimbach
2005-02-23 16:50 ` Richard Miller
2005-02-24 0:11 ` Dave Lukes
2005-02-22 23:47 ` Steve Simon
2005-02-23 0:21 ` Andrew Simmons
2005-02-23 3:59 ` lucio
2005-02-23 6:03 ` Martin C.Atkins
2005-02-21 10:37 ` Fco. J. Ballesteros
2005-02-18 3:50 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-18 7:10 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-18 7:17 ` Bruce Ellis
2005-02-18 13:07 ` Rob Pike
2005-02-18 21:23 ` McLone
2005-03-03 3:47 ` rog
2005-03-03 5:43 ` arisawa
2005-03-03 17:12 ` Sam
2005-03-03 18:11 ` rog
2005-03-03 18:27 ` Russ Cox
2005-03-03 18:54 ` g01495
2005-03-03 19:43 ` Charles Forsyth
2005-03-04 15:25 ` arisawa
2005-03-04 16:19 ` rog
2005-03-07 2:22 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-03-04 4:39 ` Scott Schwartz
2005-02-17 20:00 ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-17 20:17 ` boyd, rounin
2005-02-17 20:43 ` McLone
2005-02-17 20:19 ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-02-17 20:56 ` g01495
2005-02-17 21:02 ` Rob Pike
2005-02-17 22:35 ` McLone
2005-02-17 22:39 ` Russ Cox
2005-02-17 22:00 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-17 22:08 ` rog
2005-02-20 21:04 ` geoff
2005-02-18 12:15 ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-18 13:04 ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-18 13:18 ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-18 15:50 ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-18 16:01 ` Tiit Lankots
2005-02-17 17:41 ` McLone
2005-02-17 17:58 ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-02-16 18:31 ` Steve Simon
2005-02-16 18:37 ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-02-16 19:04 ` McLone
2005-02-16 18:59 ` McLone the Great
2005-02-17 2:24 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-17 0:15 YAMANASHI Takeshi
2005-02-22 18:06 Ben Huntsman
2005-02-22 18:12 ` George Gensure
2005-02-22 18:27 ` Brantley Coile
2005-02-23 6:25 ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-23 8:28 ` Kenji Okamoto
2005-02-23 14:34 ` andrey mirtchovski
2005-02-23 17:03 ` Sergey Reva
[not found] ` <b78d167375dbc912a20318b51cede65a@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp>
2005-02-23 12:09 ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-24 1:04 ` Kenji Okamoto
[not found] ` <0ff543a65f3c8fa9dab0a6a07def2f3a@granite.cias.osakafu-u.ac.jp>
2005-02-24 5:49 ` Sergey Reva
2005-02-23 15:21 ` Ronald G. Minnich
2005-02-22 18:16 Ben Huntsman
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