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[9fans] re: emacs jokes

[Brandon]

I never thought about EMT... my vision has always been basically a VR
helmet and a glove (existing hardware).  Just need the software to be
there... speech recognition for "keyboard" input and command phrases, the
glove for object manipulation (like a 3D mouse), and the head tracking for
either moving your view around in a 360 degree desktop area, or for
focus...

I sure wish interface technology would keep up with the rest of the
computer world.  When I think how fast my mind is churning out sets of
unix commands I want to type in various windows, and how fast the machine
can handle them, it becomes obvious that the user interface is really
slowing us both down.

Brandon

On Sun, 31 Aug 1997, Martin Weitzel wrote:

> > 
> > Are you thinking foot pedal or movable foot-attachment-thingy? What would
> > you call it?  The POSSUM? Hum... Microsoft possum... Logitech possum...
> > 
> > A Possum protocol!?
> 
> :-) :-)
> 
> I hope some day there will be reliable EMT-devices, i.e.
> "Eye Movement Trackers".  Why use my hands -- or feet --
> to move a "pointer" over something I'm already looking at?
> (Of course, such a EMT-device had to work from remote, I
> don't want to wear special hardware on my head.)  Then
> throw in speech recognition and we would have really new,
> cool ways to interact with a computer ...
> 

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[ozan]

Clint Olsen:
> Perhaps if emacs had foot pedals it wouldn't be so painful to use.

on a related note, see "double bucky" and "space-cadet keyboard" entries
in the "Hacker's Dictionary" for various details on some MIT keyboards.

oz

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[Tom]

On Aug 31, 11:40am, Martin Weitzel wrote:
> I hope some day there will be reliable EMT-devices, i.e.
> "Eye Movement Trackers".  Why use my hands -- or feet --
> to move a "pointer" over something I'm already looking at?
Great idea!!?  If you think RSI in your hands is bad, wait
until you get it in your eyes.

-- 
Tom Duff, KF6LWB

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[Steve]

Rob wrote:
> Oh yeah, great: eye tracking and mind reading.
> You think orthopedists' bills are high; wait until
> you need ophthamologists to see anything and
> endless psychoanalysis to put your brain back
> together.

Ok, so it's been mentioned (on this list, I think) that
research has shown that moving to voice-operated interfaces
gets rid of wrist RSI, but causes voicebox RSI. Whatever you
use you wear out. What's the answer? "Today's random interface
uses...feet!"

Personally, I'm fond of the concept of dumping the keyboard
altogether, and replacing it with two five-button mice. :-)

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[rob]

Oh yeah, great: eye tracking and mind reading.
You think orthopedists' bills are high; wait until
you need ophthamologists to see anything and
endless psychoanalysis to put your brain back
together.

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[Martin]

>
> Are you thinking foot pedal or movable foot-attachment-thingy? What would
> you call it?  The POSSUM? Hum... Microsoft possum... Logitech possum...
>
> A Possum protocol!?

:-) :-)

I hope some day there will be reliable EMT-devices, i.e.
"Eye Movement Trackers".  Why use my hands -- or feet --
to move a "pointer" over something I'm already looking at?
(Of course, such a EMT-device had to work from remote, I
don't want to wear special hardware on my head.)  Then
throw in speech recognition and we would have really new,
cool ways to interact with a computer ...

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[Fariborz]

Are you thinking foot pedal or movable foot-attachment-thingy? What would
you call it?  The POSSUM? Hum... Microsoft possum... Logitech possum...

A Possum protocol!?

At 01:58 PM 8/29/97 -0700, you wrote:
>[This message has also been posted.]
>On Fri, 29 Aug 1997 03:22:33 GMT, quanstro@infomkt.ibm.COM
><quanstro@infomkt.ibm.COM> wrote:
>>>the emacs user is there because there's nothing else he can do: both his
>>>hands are in splints because of carpal tunnel syndrome.
>>
>>hey! not funny. once upon a time, in my infinite stupidity, or maybe to
>>prove that i was just as masochistic as the rest of them, i used emacs ---
>>until god punished me with "emacs pinkies" (tendonitis to all you tennis
>>players) for my sins. this was long before sam, and lacking better options
>>(i think that pi was the only other contender), i switched to vi. that is,
>>i traded sore wrists for lots of extranious "i"s floating about my text.
>
>Perhaps if emacs had foot pedals it wouldn't be so painful to use.
>
>-Clint
>
>

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[Clint]

[This message has also been posted.]
On Fri, 29 Aug 1997 03:22:33 GMT, quanstro@infomkt.ibm.COM
<quanstro@infomkt.ibm.COM> wrote:
>>the emacs user is there because there's nothing else he can do: both his
>>hands are in splints because of carpal tunnel syndrome.
>
>hey! not funny. once upon a time, in my infinite stupidity, or maybe to
>prove that i was just as masochistic as the rest of them, i used emacs ---
>until god punished me with "emacs pinkies" (tendonitis to all you tennis
>players) for my sins. this was long before sam, and lacking better options
>(i think that pi was the only other contender), i switched to vi. that is,
>i traded sore wrists for lots of extranious "i"s floating about my text.

Perhaps if emacs had foot pedals it wouldn't be so painful to use.

-Clint

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[Gary]

# jch@cs.cmu.edu (Jonathan Hardwick) writes:
# >
# >Emacs is the solution to every problem....
#
# Such as the perennial "I can use my hands, is there any way for
# me to cripple myself so badly that someone else has to feed me?"

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[quanstro]

>the emacs user is there because there's nothing else he can do: both his hands
>are in splints because of carpal tunnel syndrome.

hey! not funny. once upon a time, in my infinite stupidity, or
maybe to prove that i was just as masochistic as the rest of them,
i used emacs --- until god punished me with "emacs pinkies"
(tendonitis to all you tennis players) for my sins. this was long
before sam, and lacking better options (i think that pi was the
only other contender), i switched to vi. that is, i traded sore
wrists for lots of extranious "i"s floating about my text.

erik