[9fans] RIP Alef

[9fans] RIP Alef

[Elliott]

was the option of making the Alef compiler output C that
used the threads library considered and rejected? apart
from its lack of garbage collection, i liked Alef, and my
main interest in seeing the next Plan 9 release was seeing
the kind of libraries that the ADT style lets one build, and
comparing those to the OO style libraries i'm more familiar
with.

i was looking forward to seeing how well a GUI component
library could be done in Alef (after seeing too many abysmal
efforts in C, and various degrees of success in various OO
languages).

are (hypothetical) Plan 9 applications expected to be written
in C? or is there now a Java or Dis VM allowing the use of
something a little less painful?

 - Elliott

--
"The old fellows stole all of our best ideas!" -- Frederic W. Goudy

[9fans] RIP Alef

[forsyth]

%  Regret Alef's death, but I will rise from mine if Limbo would
%  be made available on Plan9. For once there was the birth of a
%  language with `style'. I for one would hate to see it dead.

i don't suppose we'd be best pleased either.  i can say that assuming
inferno rekindles the number of hosted systems should go up systematically,
not down, and that plan 9 is quite likely to be one of them.
which plan 9, though?   good question.

[9fans] RIP Alef

[b]

rsc@plan9.bell-labs.com (Russ Cox) writes:

%  Regret Alef's death, but I will rise from mine if Limbo would
%  be made available on Plan9. For once there was the birth of a
%  language with `style'. I for one would hate to see it dead.
%  Just the language please (with module support) generating the
%  Plan9 intermediate executables.
%
%You confuse Plan 9 with Inferno.
%No one has done the work to make Limbo
%work natively under Plan 9, and indeed
%it seems like a large amount of work.
%
No, I do not. I was asking if Limbo can be made available as
a programming language under Plan 9. (may be my saying intermediate
executables -- was confusing -- though I was not reffering to .dis
files -- I was referring to the cross compiled output of Plan 9).

[9fans] RIP Alef

[Nigel]

I'm not sure cousins are allowed to marry.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nikolai Saoukh [mailto:nms@otdel-1.org]
Sent: 12 May 2000 15:32
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] RIP Alef


On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 10:21:09AM -0400, Russ Cox wrote:

> You confuse Plan 9 with Inferno.
> No one has done the work to make Limbo
> work natively under Plan 9, and indeed
> it seems like a large amount of work.

Looks like plan9 and Inferno completely divorced?

[9fans] RIP Alef

[Nikolai]

On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 10:21:09AM -0400, Russ Cox wrote:

> You confuse Plan 9 with Inferno.
> No one has done the work to make Limbo
> work natively under Plan 9, and indeed
> it seems like a large amount of work.

Looks like plan9 and Inferno completely divorced?

[9fans] RIP Alef

[Russ]

  Regret Alef's death, but I will rise from mine if Limbo would
  be made available on Plan9. For once there was the birth of a
  language with `style'. I for one would hate to see it dead.
  Just the language please (with module support) generating the
  Plan9 intermediate executables.

You confuse Plan 9 with Inferno.
No one has done the work to make Limbo
work natively under Plan 9, and indeed
it seems like a large amount of work.

Russ

[9fans] RIP Alef

[b]

Elliott.Hughes@genedata.com (Elliott Hughes) writes:

%was the option of making the Alef compiler output C that
%used the threads library considered and rejected? apart
%from its lack of garbage collection, i liked Alef, and my
%main interest in seeing the next Plan 9 release was seeing
%the kind of libraries that the ADT style lets one build, and
%comparing those to the OO style libraries i'm more familiar
%with.
%
%i was looking forward to seeing how well a GUI component
%library could be done in Alef (after seeing too many abysmal
%efforts in C, and various degrees of success in various OO
%languages).
%
%are (hypothetical) Plan 9 applications expected to be written
%in C? or is there now a Java or Dis VM allowing the use of
%something a little less painful?
%
Regret Alef's death, but I will rise from mine if Limbo would
be made available on Plan9. For once there was the birth of a
language with `style'. I for one would hate to see it dead.
Just the language please (with module support) generating the
Plan9 intermediate executables.


thanks