Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?

Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?

[geoff]

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Will the xpert 98 do 1800x1350?  ATI's own web pages
seem to imply that it will only go up 1600x1200.
I wonder what its dot clock is.

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From: "Russ Cox" <rsc@plan9.bell-labs.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2000 16:04:51 -0400
Message-ID: <200007132004.QAA12290@smtp2.fas.harvard.edu>

Today, the best supported cards are the Mach 64s.
With 8MB you can do 1600x1200x32 or 1800x1350x24,
so an Xpert 98 is probably just great.

Russ

Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?

[Russ Cox]

You can do it, for sure, you just might not
like the refresh rate depending on the card.

The VGA people don't seem to think 1800x1350
is a standard mode (probably because it isn't)
but I did see something close to it on a Rage128
box recently.

Russ

Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?

[Milan Zimmermann]

jmk@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:
> 
> Milan Zimmermann <mzimmerm@worldchat.com>:
>         hmm... I thought by now there is only AGP version of this card
>         ...thanks. I wonder if AGP/PCI makes a difference in terms of Plan 9
>         support - I hope not ...
> 
> Plan 9 doesn't care.

Thanks

Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?

[jmk]

Milan Zimmermann <mzimmerm@worldchat.com>:
	hmm... I thought by now there is only AGP version of this card
	...thanks. I wonder if AGP/PCI makes a difference in terms of Plan 9
	support - I hope not ...

Plan 9 doesn't care.

Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?

[Milan Zimmermann]

"Douglas A. Gwyn" wrote:
> 
> Milan Zimmermann wrote:
> >   - is the supported ATI Xpert 98 the AGP version?
> 
> The one I have is PCI.

hmm... I thought by now there is only AGP version of this card
...thanks. I wonder if AGP/PCI makes a difference in terms of Plan 9
support - I hope not ...

Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?

[Douglas A. Gwyn]

Milan Zimmermann wrote:
>   - is the supported ATI Xpert 98 the AGP version?

The one I have is PCI.

Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?

[Milan Zimmermann]

Hello,

I am going to build a PC which I want to run Plan 9. On my other PC's at
home I have problems with the video cards.

The consensus seems to be here that ATI Xpert 98 is supported well, so
that looks like a buy. I know there is an Xpert 98 AGP/8Mb.

I have a few questions/does someone here have knowledge of:
  - does anyone have (any) supported (I mean working) card with 16Mb or
32 Mb? I'd like to get more than 8Mb
  - is the supported ATI Xpert 98 the AGP version? (well there may not
be a PCI version...)
  
Thanks, Milan

Steve Kotsopoulos wrote:
> 
> given that only mach64 and S3 Virge based cards currently support
> acceleration and more than 8-bit depth, which is the best card for
> the money today? I want at least 1280x1024x16 with acceleration.
> 
> I've seen 8Meg Xpert 98 cards for $55.

Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?

[George Bronnikov]

> > I have trouble configuring my RagePro.  The only working (sorta)
> > mode is 640x480x8, and there I have the left half of the screen
> > repeated twice.
> Assuming you have a good multisync monitor and told plan9.ini
> about it, that's the sort of thing that happens for an unsupported
> flavor of ATI chip.  (I got from 3 to 5 partial panels when using
> a RAGE-128.)  What is the specific product name of the video board,
> and the part name stamped on the controller chip?  It might not be
> what you think it is..

On the video board: 

	PN 109-40200-01
	AMC ver 2.0

On the chip:

	3D RAGE PRO AGP 2X
	215R3BUA22
	B9Y73
	9747SS
	TAIWAN

(Sorry, I have no idea which part of all this may be significant).

XFree86 runs on it using the Mach64 driver.

	George

Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?

[Douglas A. Gwyn]

George Bronnikov wrote:
> I have trouble configuring my RagePro.  The only working (sorta)
> mode is 640x480x8, and there I have the left half of the screen
> repeated twice.

Assuming you have a good multisync monitor and told plan9.ini
about it, that's the sort of thing that happens for an unsupported
flavor of ATI chip.  (I got from 3 to 5 partial panels when using
a RAGE-128.)  What is the specific product name of the video board,
and the part name stamped on the controller chip?  It might not be
what you think it is..

Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?

[Dave Turner]

steve@nevex.com (Steve Kotsopoulos) wrote:

>given that only mach64 and S3 Virge based cards currently support
>acceleration and more than 8-bit depth, which is the best card for
>the money today? I want at least 1280x1024x16 with acceleration.
>
>I've seen 8Meg Xpert 98 cards for $55.

Best Buy had them on sale last week for $49.99 with a $10 rebate from
ATI.

I could not get my S3 Trio64 to work at all but the Xpert 98 works fine.

Regards,

Dave

Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?

[George Bronnikov]

On Thu, 13 Jul 2000, Russ Cox wrote:

> Today, the best supported cards are the Mach 64s.
> With 8MB you can do 1600x1200x32 or 1800x1350x24,
> so an Xpert 98 is probably just great.
> 
> Russ

I have trouble configuring my RagePro.  The only working (sorta) mode is
640x480x8, and there I have the left half of the screen repeated
twice.  Definitely not a pleasant working environment.

Is there any known cure?

	George

Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?

[Russ Cox]

Today, the best supported cards are the Mach 64s.
With 8MB you can do 1600x1200x32 or 1800x1350x24,
so an Xpert 98 is probably just great.

Russ

Re: [9fans] best supported vga card?

[Andrey Mirtchovski]

Steve Kotsopoulos wrote:

> given that only mach64 and S3 Virge based cards currently support
> acceleration and more than 8-bit depth, which is the best card for
> the money today? I want at least 1280x1024x16 with acceleration.
>
> I've seen 8Meg Xpert 98 cards for $55.

ATI Xpert@Work 8meg works fine at 1280x1024x24... Acceleration seems to
be good and the speed is at least 2x the non-accelerated one.

[9fans] best supported vga card?

[Steve Kotsopoulos]

given that only mach64 and S3 Virge based cards currently support
acceleration and more than 8-bit depth, which is the best card for
the money today? I want at least 1280x1024x16 with acceleration.

I've seen 8Meg Xpert 98 cards for $55.