Re: [9fans] Inferno "wm/wm"

Re: [9fans] Inferno "wm/wm"

[rog]

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i've seen that message when trying to create a new
window that's bigger than the overall display size.
e.g. using emu -g800x600 on a 640x480 screen.

the error message is coming from rio.

what command line arguments did you give emu?

  cheers,
    rog.


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To: cse.psu.edu!9fans
Subject: [9fans] Inferno "wm/wm"
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:44:11 -0500
Message-ID: <20010308144810.C2E3F199C1@mail.cse.psu.edu>

I hope it's OK to post Inferno related topics here. If there
is a better place please advise me.

I just installed Inferno onto my Plan9 OS. Everything went well
and followed the directions in the README.

I have gotten down as far as starting the wm Window Manager.
This is what happens:

	; wm/wm
	attachscreen: can't mount window manager: bad rectangle in attach
	wm: cannot initialise display: initdisplay: /dev/draw/new: 
	; 

Where is the problem?

		-Bill

Re: [9fans] Inferno "wm/wm"

[forsyth]

>Excuse me, Inferno ships on the Plan 9 CD and provides the only 'shrink
>wrap' browser so your point is simply OS bigotry. It is clear that Inferno
>is intended by Lucent to be used with Plan 9. Therefore discussion within
>the scope of Plan 9 operations should be apropos.

i think you misread my intentions: ultimately i don't myself care where
Inferno is mentioned, especially where the two overlap because they are
clearly related, and Inferno is indeed a Plan 9 application,
but someone did ask, and i therefore pointed out that
there were several places already dedicated to it (well, if you
discount `MAKE MONEY FAST' and `Napster Lives!'  messages),
where one could ask Inferno-specific questions.

Inferno ships on the Plan 9 CD because we (not Lucent) thought it might
encourage interest, and it provided a moderately capable browser (including
Javascript, and with finite source).

our Plan 9 CD includes other software (mainly software package ports
contributed by Russ `The Wonderful' Cox) that we also thought would
be useful and in which we have no proprietary interest at all.

Re: [9fans] Inferno "wm/wm"

[Jim Choate]

Which doesn't change the point one whit.

On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 presotto@plan9.bell-labs.com wrote:

> Actually Lucent intends nothing about Inferno, Vitanuova now owns everything
> including intentions.  I'm perfectly happy to defer to their desires about
> when/where to discuss Inferno.

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Re: [9fans] Inferno "wm/wm"

[Jim Choate]

Excuse me, Inferno ships on the Plan 9 CD and provides the only 'shrink
wrap' browser so your point is simply OS bigotry. It is clear that Inferno
is intended by Lucent to be used with Plan 9. Therefore discussion within
the scope of Plan 9 operations should be apropos.

On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 forsyth@vitanuova.com wrote:

> there's no need to clutter the 9fans list with inferno items.
> there are three places: comp.os.inferno on Usenet, inferno@research.suspicious.org,
> the email list that pip recently started with great expectations
> ({echo subscribe inferno | mail majordomo@research.suspicious.org}),
> and support@vitanuova.com

    ____________________________________________________________________

           Before a larger group can see the virtue of an idea, a
           smaller group must first understand it.

                                           "Stranger Suns"
                                           George Zebrowski

       The Armadillo Group       ,::////;::-.          James Choate
       Austin, Tx               /:'///// ``::>/|/      ravage@ssz.com
       www.ssz.com            .',  ||||    `/( e\      512-451-7087
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Re: [9fans] Inferno "wm/wm"

[presotto]

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Actually Lucent intends nothing about Inferno, Vitanuova now owns everything
including intentions.  I'm perfectly happy to defer to their desires about
when/where to discuss Inferno.

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From: Jim Choate <ravage@ssz.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Inferno "wm/wm"
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:18:40 -0600 (CST)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.1010308161706.5925z-100000@einstein.ssz.com>


Excuse me, Inferno ships on the Plan 9 CD and provides the only 'shrink
wrap' browser so your point is simply OS bigotry. It is clear that Inferno
is intended by Lucent to be used with Plan 9. Therefore discussion within
the scope of Plan 9 operations should be apropos.

On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 forsyth@vitanuova.com wrote:

> there's no need to clutter the 9fans list with inferno items.
> there are three places: comp.os.inferno on Usenet, inferno@research.suspicious.org,
> the email list that pip recently started with great expectations
> ({echo subscribe inferno | mail majordomo@research.suspicious.org}),
> and support@vitanuova.com

    ____________________________________________________________________

           Before a larger group can see the virtue of an idea, a
           smaller group must first understand it.

                                           "Stranger Suns"
                                           George Zebrowski

       The Armadillo Group       ,::////;::-.          James Choate
       Austin, Tx               /:'///// ``::>/|/      ravage@ssz.com
       www.ssz.com            .',  ||||    `/( e\      512-451-7087
                           -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'-
    --------------------------------------------------------------------
 

Re: [9fans] Inferno "wm/wm"

[William Staniewicz]

Yes, that was the problem. It comes up OK now.

Thank you,
Bill

BTW, just joined the inferno list.  :)
> 
> well, that's your problem.  you can't fit an inferno window of that
> size into rio (you have to take into account the 4-or-so pixel rio
> border too).
> 
> you'd have the same problem if you tried to use the window(1) command
> to create a new rio window of that size.
> 
> try -g1000x760 (which has the additional benefit of leaving you a
> little "plan 9 space" around the edges...
> 
>   rog.

Re: [9fans] Inferno "wm/wm"

[William Staniewicz]

Here is my /rc/bin/termrc:

	EMU=(-g1024x768)

Here is plan9.ini :

	vgasize=1024x768x8

I am just typing "emu" in rc.

		-Bill

> 
> i've seen that message when trying to create a new
> window that's bigger than the overall display size.
> e.g. using emu -g800x600 on a 640x480 screen.
> 
> the error message is coming from rio.
> 
> what command line arguments did you give emu?
> 
>   cheers,
>     rog.
> 

[9fans] Inferno "wm/wm"

[William Staniewicz]

I hope it's OK to post Inferno related topics here. If there
is a better place please advise me.

I just installed Inferno onto my Plan9 OS. Everything went well
and followed the directions in the README.

I have gotten down as far as starting the wm Window Manager.
This is what happens:

	; wm/wm
	attachscreen: can't mount window manager: bad rectangle in attach
	wm: cannot initialise display: initdisplay: /dev/draw/new: 
	; 

Where is the problem?

		-Bill

Re: [9fans] Inferno "wm/wm"

[rog]

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well, that's your problem.  you can't fit an inferno window of that
size into rio (you have to take into account the 4-or-so pixel rio
border too).

you'd have the same problem if you tried to use the window(1) command
to create a new rio window of that size.

try -g1000x760 (which has the additional benefit of leaving you a
little "plan 9 space" around the edges...

  rog.


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To: cse.psu.edu!9fans
Subject: Re: [9fans] Inferno "wm/wm"
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:16:56 -0500
Message-ID: <20010308152055.4CD161998A@mail.cse.psu.edu>

Here is my /rc/bin/termrc:

	EMU=(-g1024x768)

Here is plan9.ini :

	vgasize=1024x768x8

I am just typing "emu" in rc.

		-Bill

> 
> i've seen that message when trying to create a new
> window that's bigger than the overall display size.
> e.g. using emu -g800x600 on a 640x480 screen.
> 
> the error message is coming from rio.
> 
> what command line arguments did you give emu?
> 
>   cheers,
>     rog.
> 

Re: [9fans] Inferno "wm/wm"

[Dan Cross]

In article <20010308144810.C2E3F199C1@mail.cse.psu.edu> you write:
>I hope it's OK to post Inferno related topics here. If there
>is a better place please advise me.
>
>I just installed Inferno onto my Plan9 OS. Everything went well
>and followed the directions in the README.
>
>I have gotten down as far as starting the wm Window Manager.
>This is what happens:
>
>	; wm/wm
>	attachscreen: can't mount window manager: bad rectangle in attach
>	wm: cannot initialise display: initdisplay: /dev/draw/new: 
>	; 
>
>Where is the problem?

This might be a dumb question, but are you trying to run it under
acme?  Okay, I know that was a dumb question.  Did you invoke emu
with the -g option?  eg, emu -g800x600 ?  (Note the lack of a space
between the g and 8....).

	- Dan C.

(ps- there is comp.os.inferno, but lots of precedence has been set
with talking about Inferno on 9fans....)

Re: [9fans] Inferno "wm/wm"

[forsyth]

there's no need to clutter the 9fans list with inferno items.
there are three places: comp.os.inferno on Usenet, inferno@research.suspicious.org,
the email list that pip recently started with great expectations
({echo subscribe inferno | mail majordomo@research.suspicious.org}),
and support@vitanuova.com