* Re: [9fans] ls -m
@ 2001-05-19 23:32 rob pike
2001-05-20 16:29 ` Jon Snader
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: rob pike @ 2001-05-19 23:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
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> Why the brackets? It looks ok, but seems to makes it gratuitously harder
> to parse the output.
Serves me right for trying to change the subject.
-rob
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From: Scott Schwartz <schwartz@bio.cse.psu.edu>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: [9fans] ls -m
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 18:45:42 -0400
Message-ID: <20010519224542.25394.qmail@g.bio.cse.psu.edu>
> Before this discussion devolves into the usual silliness, here's
> something fun we've been working on.
Why the brackets? It looks ok, but seems to makes it gratuitously harder
to parse the output.
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* Re: [9fans] ls -m
2001-05-19 23:32 [9fans] ls -m rob pike
@ 2001-05-20 16:29 ` Jon Snader
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jon Snader @ 2001-05-20 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 07:32:57PM -0400, rob pike wrote:
> > Why the brackets? It looks ok, but seems to makes it gratuitously harder
> > to parse the output.
>
> Serves me right for trying to change the subject.
>
No good deed goes unpunished.
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* Re: [9fans] ls -m
2001-05-20 0:16 rob pike
@ 2001-05-20 0:31 ` Boyd Roberts
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From: Boyd Roberts @ 2001-05-20 0:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> So I understand the objection but I still think it makes sense to
> present the muid differently.
just need to find a clear but simple way to represent it.
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* [9fans] ls -m
@ 2001-05-20 0:16 rob pike
2001-05-20 0:31 ` Boyd Roberts
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: rob pike @ 2001-05-20 0:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
The [muid] format was not chosen at random. I was worried about
ls -lm producing three uids. Just printing another uid after the gid
would be confusing: two make a couple but three are a lot to keep
straight intuitively. I wanted ls -m to be useful without -l, but to
have a format that reminds you of its output. (Quick: what are the
units in ls -s?) I also considered the possibility of the muid
showing up in other places, such as history(1), in which a purely
positional mnemonic wouldn't be available. As it stands, if you
see [muid] anywhere, you have a clue what it means. I chose a
bracket format because it is a parenthetical remark about the file;
it contains no permission information, for example.
So I understand the objection but I still think it makes sense to
present the muid differently.
-rob
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* Re: [9fans] ls -m
2001-05-19 22:45 ` [9fans] ls -m Scott Schwartz
@ 2001-05-19 22:50 ` Boyd Roberts
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Boyd Roberts @ 2001-05-19 22:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
From: "Scott Schwartz" <schwartz@bio.cse.psu.edu>
> Why the brackets? It looks ok, but seems to makes it gratuitously harder
> to parse the output.
good point.
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* [9fans] ls -m
2001-05-19 14:26 ` Re[6]: [9fans] home, end ^h^j^k^l Matt H
@ 2001-05-19 22:45 ` Scott Schwartz
2001-05-19 22:50 ` Boyd Roberts
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Scott Schwartz @ 2001-05-19 22:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 9fans
> Before this discussion devolves into the usual silliness, here's
> something fun we've been working on.
Why the brackets? It looks ok, but seems to makes it gratuitously harder
to parse the output.
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