Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on Unix

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on Unix

[Scott Schwartz]

Rob says:
> ... I'd really like someone to clean the mess up (hint, hint).

I feel the same way.  :-)

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on Unix

[David Gordon Hogan]

> I've got a larger and more recent chunk than what the various Sam
> distributions ship with.  The problem I've had, though, is keeping
> things up to date in my not so copious spare time.

This is exactly why pooling our resources is such a good idea.

Could you please hurl your chunk this way?  :-)

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on Unix

[David Gordon Hogan]

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I'm actually interested in cleaning the mess up, or at least
coordinating the effort.  But first I need a more complete
list of the ``lots more variants''.


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From: "rob pike" <rob@plan9.bell-labs.com>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on Unix
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 10:13:11 -0400
Message-ID: <20010726141313.8013F19A38@mail.cse.psu.edu>

> A question about the unix plan9 emulation library
> Searching the net i found it in the following places
> 	www.cse.psu.edu/~schwartz/software.html
> 	www.huygens.org/~sape/concurrency
> 	www.netlib.org/research
>
> The files for libXg and libframe are not the same in all these three.
> Also the huygens.org version has the thread library included.
> Is there an 'official version' for the emulation libs containing libthread
> and the current version of libXg like thereis 9pm for win32 ?

The huygens (who can pronounce that correctly?) version was put
together to teach a course on concurrency; that's why it contains
the thread library.  I think it's a little exaggerated to call these
emulation libraries, but perhaps not mistaken.  However, there are
lots more variants, mostly associated with Sam variants, and I'd
really like someone to clean the mess up (hint, hint).

-rob

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on Unix

[William K. Josephson]

On Thu, Jul 26, 2001 at 11:58:35PM -0400, David Gordon Hogan wrote:
> I'm actually interested in cleaning the mess up, or at least
> coordinating the effort.  But first I need a more complete
> list of the ``lots more variants''.

I've got a larger and more recent chunk than what the various Sam
distributions ship with.  The problem I've had, though, is keeping
things up to date in my not so copious spare time.

 -WJ

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on Unix

[David Gordon Hogan]

> > The files for libXg and libframe are not the same in all these three.
> > Also the huygens.org version has the thread library included.
> > Is there an 'official version' for the emulation libs containing libthread
> > and the current version of libXg like thereis 9pm for win32 ?
>
> The huygens (who can pronounce that correctly?) version was put
> together to teach a course on concurrency; that's why it contains
> the thread library.  I think it's a little exaggerated to call these
> emulation libraries, but perhaps not mistaken.  However, there are
> lots more variants, mostly associated with Sam variants, and I'd
> really like someone to clean the mess up (hint, hint).

There's also emu and drawterm (though perhaps unifying _all_ of
these is more trouble than it's worth?  Particularly as Inferno uses
a different graphics model...).

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on Unix

[Theo Honohan]

On Thursday 26 July, David Gordon Hogan wrote ("Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on Unix"):
>
> There's also emu and drawterm (though perhaps unifying _all_ of
> these is more trouble than it's worth?  Particularly as Inferno uses
> a different graphics model...).

I think Charles Forsyth has hinted here that Vita Nuova intend to
enhance the Inferno graphics model, so I wouldn't count on that
particular obstacle being around forever.  Not that I see demu and
drawterm being integrated any time soon.

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on Unix

[rob pike]

> A question about the unix plan9 emulation library
> Searching the net i found it in the following places
> 	www.cse.psu.edu/~schwartz/software.html
> 	www.huygens.org/~sape/concurrency
> 	www.netlib.org/research
>
> The files for libXg and libframe are not the same in all these three.
> Also the huygens.org version has the thread library included.
> Is there an 'official version' for the emulation libs containing libthread
> and the current version of libXg like thereis 9pm for win32 ?

The huygens (who can pronounce that correctly?) version was put
together to teach a course on concurrency; that's why it contains
the thread library.  I think it's a little exaggerated to call these
emulation libraries, but perhaps not mistaken.  However, there are
lots more variants, mostly associated with Sam variants, and I'd
really like someone to clean the mess up (hint, hint).

-rob

[9fans] Plan 9 on Unix

[Anastasopoulos S]

Hi

A question about the unix plan9 emulation library
Searching the net i found it in the following places
	www.cse.psu.edu/~schwartz/software.html
	www.huygens.org/~sape/concurrency
	www.netlib.org/research

The files for libXg and libframe are not the same in all these three.
Also the huygens.org version has the thread library included.
Is there an 'official version' for the emulation libs containing libthread
and the current version of libXg like thereis 9pm for win32 ?

Spyros