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From: Borja Marcos <borjamar@sarenet.es>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Virtual memory in BSD and Plan9
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 13:57:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200110291257.f9TCvUp32392@borja.sarenet.es> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20011029123819.DCCD7199E4@mail.cse.psu.edu>

On Monday 29 October 2001 13:38, you wrote:
> I'm a radical here, but I think if a machine is paging, you've lost.
> To me, VM is a pretty technique for memory management in the kernel,
> something distinct from paging, which is a way to get the system
> through temprorary overshoots in memory demand.

	That's right. Virtual memory avoids, for example, the memory fragmentation 
problem. Memory is divided into fixed-size pages, and the address space of a 
process doesn't need to be contiguous. Processes see a "logical" address 
space which is translated to physical addresses by the MMU.

	So, virtual memory is in my opinion a very good thing.

	Regarding paging, it depends on *how* much does it page. I don't mind if my 
machine has to page sometimes. There are rules of thumb that specify a degree 
of "acceptable badness". ;-)




	Borja.




  reply	other threads:[~2001-10-29 12:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-29 12:38 rob pike
2001-10-29 12:57 ` Borja Marcos [this message]
2001-10-30 15:22 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-10-30 15:22 ` John S. Dyson
2001-10-30 21:13   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-02  9:59     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-30 15:23 ` Ozan Yigit
2001-10-31 10:00   ` John S. Dyson
2001-10-31 18:12     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-10-31 20:21       ` Dan Cross
2001-11-13 10:34         ` John S. Dyson
2001-11-02  9:58 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-11-13 11:56 forsyth
     [not found] <dhog@plan9.bell-labs.com>
2001-11-01 21:19 ` David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-01 21:23   ` Scott Schwartz
2001-10-30 16:08 bwc
2001-10-30 15:37 bwc
2001-10-25 17:55 Russ Cox
2001-10-25 18:29 ` William Josephson
2001-10-29 10:16   ` John S. Dyson
2001-10-25 16:59 Wladimir Mutel

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