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From: bwc@borf.com
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Virtual memory in BSD and Plan9
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:37:29 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20011030153547.BE232199EC@mail.cse.psu.edu> (raw)

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I sense that this thread is about to enter the `Virtual address space is not
large enough to support the universe' phase.  Can we just insert a token
here and not actually issue the messages? :-)

  Brantley Coile

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From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" <DAGwyn@null.net>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] Virtual memory in BSD and Plan9
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:22:01 GMT
Message-ID: <3BDDE974.C140716C@null.net>

rob pike wrote:
> I'm a radical here, but I think if a machine is paging, you've lost.
> To me, VM is a pretty technique for memory management in the kernel,
> something distinct from paging, which is a way to get the system
> through temprorary overshoots in memory demand.

Seems to me that computing has evolved toward a "caching" model.
E.g. a register set operating on a multilevel RAM cache, which
is a window into the RAM, which may be the window into a large
(memory-mapped) file, which may be a cached portion of some huge
database on the other end of a network connection.  Something
like "paging" (cache remapping) is needed or else a task would
be confined to a very narrow window forever..

             reply	other threads:[~2001-10-30 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-10-30 15:37 bwc [this message]
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2001-11-13 11:56 forsyth
     [not found] <dhog@plan9.bell-labs.com>
2001-11-01 21:19 ` David Gordon Hogan
2001-11-01 21:23   ` Scott Schwartz
2001-10-30 16:08 bwc
2001-10-29 12:38 rob pike
2001-10-29 12:57 ` Borja Marcos
2001-10-30 15:22 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-10-30 15:22 ` John S. Dyson
2001-10-30 21:13   ` Boyd Roberts
2001-11-02  9:59     ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-30 15:23 ` Ozan Yigit
2001-10-31 10:00   ` John S. Dyson
2001-10-31 18:12     ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2001-10-31 20:21       ` Dan Cross
2001-11-13 10:34         ` John S. Dyson
2001-11-02  9:58 ` Thomas Bushnell, BSG
2001-10-25 17:55 Russ Cox
2001-10-25 18:29 ` William Josephson
2001-10-29 10:16   ` John S. Dyson
2001-10-25 16:59 Wladimir Mutel

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