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From: rog@vitanuova.com
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] dumb question
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 17:31:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020628162533.93E5E19980@mail.cse.psu.edu> (raw)

doug:
> The question is, what would be a similar mechanism for rc that you'd
> find acceptable?

the same mechanism applies in rc ($ifs rather than $IFS).

but just fixing it in the shell doesn't apply to the multitude of
little nasty things that still need tampering with to work in the
presence of quoted filenames.

whereas before it was possible to just manipulate text irrespective of
whether it was a filename or a word, now you have to unquote filenames
on input and quote on output, so many things that manipulate text will
need to understand rc-style quotes.

in 3e, the internal representation of a filename is the same as its
external representation, and a lot of tools gain simplicity from this
identity transformation.

there are so many things in the system that potentially or actually
break, i really don't see why we can't just transform spaces at the
boundaries of the system (dossrv, ftpfs, et al) and hence be assured
that *nothing* breaks, rather than adding hack after hack to existing
tools.

rob:
> it seems the shell can and should be fixed. i will entertain
> proposals that include code.

diffs to dosfs? :-)

  cheers,
    rog.



             reply	other threads:[~2002-06-28 16:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-28 16:31 rog [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-07-15  0:37 [9fans] Dumb question Dan Cross
2003-07-15  3:23 ` boyd, rounin
2002-07-05  9:43 [9fans] dumb question Geoff Collyer
2002-07-01 11:03 rog
2002-07-02  8:53 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
     [not found] <rob@plan9.bell-labs.com>
2002-06-28 16:49 ` rob pike, esq.
2002-06-29  2:23   ` Scott Schwartz
2002-06-28 16:39 rob pike, esq.
2002-06-28 16:14 rob pike, esq.
2002-06-28 14:10 rob pike, esq.
2002-06-28 15:42 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-06-28 14:08 rog
2002-06-28  7:52 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-06-27 22:59 Geoff Collyer
2002-06-28  4:32 ` Lucio De Re
2002-06-27 18:38 forsyth
2002-06-28  8:45 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-06-27 17:07 rog
2002-06-27 17:07 forsyth
2002-06-27 16:33 ` Sam
2002-06-27 14:43 Richard Miller
2002-06-27 14:33 forsyth
2002-06-27 13:20 rob pike, esq.
2002-07-05  9:07 ` Maarit Maliniemi
2002-06-27 13:19 rob pike, esq.
2002-06-27 13:21 ` david presotto
2002-06-27 15:40 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-06-27 12:27 rog
2002-06-27 12:12 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-06-27 12:06 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-06-27 11:13 ` Sam
2002-06-27 11:15   ` Sam
2002-06-27 10:29 nigel
2002-06-27  9:44 Stephen Parker
2002-06-27  9:43 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-06-27  9:36 Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-06-27  1:22 okamoto
2002-06-27  1:05 okamoto
2002-06-26 23:08 forsyth
     [not found] ` <171e27d5f2cfd12a9303117e58818e5b@plan9.bell-labs.com>
2002-06-26 18:27   ` Andrew Stitt
2002-06-26 17:39     ` Sam
2002-06-27  9:17       ` Andrew Stitt
2002-06-27  9:33         ` Ish Rattan
2002-06-27  9:59         ` Lucio De Re
2002-06-27 10:05           ` Boyd Roberts
2002-06-27 10:21             ` Lucio De Re
2002-06-27 15:40           ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-06-27 16:57             ` Lucio De Re
2002-06-28  8:45               ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-06-28  9:31               ` Boyd Roberts
2002-06-28 14:30                 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-06-28 15:06                   ` Boyd Roberts
2002-07-01  9:46                   ` Ralph Corderoy
2002-06-27 15:36       ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-06-27 15:12         ` Sam
2002-06-28  8:44           ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-06-26 22:07     ` Micah Stetson
2002-06-26 22:59       ` Chris Hollis-Locke
2002-06-27  0:03         ` Micah Stetson
2002-06-27  0:44           ` Micah Stetson
2002-06-27  9:17     ` Ralph Corderoy
2002-06-27  9:48       ` Boyd Roberts
2002-06-27 10:07         ` John Murdie
2002-06-27 15:40         ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-06-26 19:04 rog
2002-06-26 19:00 Warrier, Sadanand (Sadanand)
2002-06-27  0:13 ` Steve Arons
2002-06-26 18:41 forsyth
2002-06-26 18:40 David Gordon Hogan
2002-06-26 17:53 rog
2002-06-26 17:45 rob pike, esq.
2002-06-27  9:16 ` Andrew Stitt
2002-06-27  9:17 ` Douglas A. Gwyn
2002-06-26 19:53   ` arisawa
2002-06-27 11:43   ` Ralph Corderoy
2002-06-27 11:04     ` Sam
2002-06-26  8:55 Stephen Parker
2002-06-26 17:18 ` Andrew Stitt
     [not found] <nemo@plan9.escet.urjc.es>
2002-06-25 17:06 ` Fco.J.Ballesteros
2002-06-25 18:01   ` Scott Schwartz
2002-06-26  8:41   ` Andrew Stitt
2002-06-26  9:14     ` Nigel Roles
2002-06-26 17:41       ` Andrew Stitt
2002-06-26 16:08         ` Ish Rattan
2002-06-25 16:48 Andrew Stitt
2002-06-26  8:45 ` arisawa
2002-06-26 17:36   ` Andrew Stitt

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