[9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[andrey mirtchovski]

this function was supposed to be disabled (only allowing users to edit
the wiki from a Plan 9 machine) but it seems to have been re-enabled.

currently the main wiki page is fscked.

andrey

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[andrey mirtchovski]

> this function was supposed to be disabled (only allowing users to edit
> the wiki from a Plan 9 machine) but it seems to have been re-enabled.
> 
> currently the main wiki page is fscked.
> 
> andrey

i've reinstated the main page from its last known good state, but we
should really disable editing from the web...

andrey

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[a]

i don't suppose we have any log info that might be useful for
tracking down the virtual vandal? just curious.
ア

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[Russ Cox]

andrey mirtchovski wrote:

>>this function was supposed to be disabled (only allowing users to edit
>>the wiki from a Plan 9 machine) but it seems to have been re-enabled.
>>
>>currently the main wiki page is fscked.
>>
>>andrey
>>    
>>
>
>i've reinstated the main page from its last known good state, but we
>should really disable editing from the web...
>  
>

that didn't take long.  we moved services to a new machine over
the weekend, a machine with a working ip/httpd/wikipost.  i think
i've fixed the problem.

russ

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[andrey mirtchovski]

> i don't suppose we have any log info that might be useful for
> tracking down the virtual vandal? just curious.
> ア

you can click on the 'history' link at the bottom of the wiki page to
find their ip address...

the latest perpetrator was from Moldova. 

moldtelecom -- them russians and their abbreviated company names :)

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[Russ Cox]

a@9srv.net wrote:
> i don't suppose we have any log info that might be useful for
> tracking down the virtual vandal? just curious.

The IP address is in the history.

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[David Tolpin]

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> > i don't suppose we have any log info that might be useful for
> > tracking down the virtual vandal? just curious.
> > ア
>
> you can click on the 'history' link at the bottom of the wiki page to
> find their ip address...
>
> the latest perpetrator was from Moldova. 
>
> moldtelecom -- them russians and their abbreviated company names :)
>

Moldovians are much less Russians than Bulgarians are. Tame your
chauvinism.

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[andrey mirtchovski]

> Moldovians are much less Russians than Bulgarians are. Tame your
> chauvinism.

'twas a joke, get on with it.  here's an emoticon that should make
more sense: ☺

Bulgaria has also inherited a Soviet-style inclination to get as many
abbreviated words as possible in the names of state-run companies,
"Neftochim" and "Bulgartabak" come as examples.  Should I not be
making fun of those either?

By the way, you either have the definition of 'chauvinism' wrong, or
are confused about which country I am "militantly devoted to the
glorification of"
(http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=chauvinism).  I believe the
word doesn't change meaning in either russian, armenian, bulgarian,
moldovan (romanian) or gagauz.

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[George Michaelson]

>Bulgaria has also inherited a Soviet-style inclination to get as many
>abbreviated words as possible in the names of state-run companies,
>"Neftochim" and "Bulgartabak" come as examples.  Should I not be
>making fun of those either?

The French do this too, as I am sure Boyd can point out. Maybe the Sovs got
it from the French? And I wish I knew if the 'waterloo == station' urban myth
my mother told me is true (apparently the czar was that impressed with the
station when he saw it)

I like this form of word construction. As does Bell Northern Canada and almost
every other telco these days. EmbraTel, Nortel, K-Tel...

>
>By the way, you either have the definition of 'chauvinism' wrong, or
>are confused about which country I am "militantly devoted to the
>glorification of"
>(http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=chauvinism).  I believe the
>word doesn't change meaning in either russian, armenian, bulgarian,
>moldovan (romanian) or gagauz.

I blame the cathars, or the bogomils. They're all dead anyway. But I'll
blame Canada if you like!

-George

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[Axel Belinfante]

> I like this form of word construction. As does Bell Northern Canada and almost
> every other telco these days. EmbraTel, Nortel, K-Tel...

once upon a time there was twentel...

(a functional programming language developed at the
 then called 'technische hogeschool twente')

Axel. - sorry about the noise, but could not resist

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[Roman Shaposhnick]

On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 04:11:52PM -0300, George Michaelson wrote:
> 
> >Bulgaria has also inherited a Soviet-style inclination to get as many
> >abbreviated words as possible in the names of state-run companies,
> >"Neftochim" and "Bulgartabak" come as examples.  Should I not be
> >making fun of those either?
> 
> The French do this too, as I am sure Boyd can point out. Maybe the Sovs got
> it from the French? 

  What ?!?!? I though USA invented the whole idea.

Thanks,
Roman.

P.S. Back in my childhood I though that Russian military tongue was
practically Morse code when it came to the number of acronyms per
sentence, boy, was I wrong: "AFAIR I've RSVPed for the FAQ session before COB"!
And that's *spoken* language!

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[Wes Kussmaul]

>
>P.S. Back in my childhood I though that Russian military tongue was
>practically Morse code when it came to the number of acronyms per
>sentence, boy, was I wrong: "AFAIR I've RSVPed for the FAQ session before 
>COB"!
>And that's *spoken* language!

To have a PKI application reviewed for acceptance by the U.S. military, 
you'll need
to apply to the DoD/DISA/JITC/PKITC/PKE AP program.

WK

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[boyd, rounin]

> Moldovians are much less Russians than Bulgarians are. Tame your
> chauvinism.

207

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[9nut]

>>P.S. Back in my childhood I though that Russian military tongue was
>>practically Morse code when it came to the number of acronyms per
>>sentence, boy, was I wrong: "AFAIR I've RSVPed for the FAQ session before 
>>COB"!
>>And that's *spoken* language!
> 
> To have a PKI application reviewed for acceptance by the U.S. military, 
> you'll need
> to apply to the DoD/DISA/JITC/PKITC/PKE AP program.

"Seeing as how the VP is such a VIP, should we keep the PC on the QT, 'cause if
it leaks to the VC, he could end up a MIA and we'd all be put on KP."
	- Robin Williams as Adrian Cronauer

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[boyd, rounin]

> The French do this too, as I am sure Boyd can point out.

well languages are hard.  i'd rather say:

    t'en veux?

instead of:

    do you want some?

> Maybe the Sovs got it from the French?

perhaps, french being the diplomatic language.

> And I wish I knew if the 'waterloo == station' urban myth

both.  a tubestation and a battle.


ps.  send the JD.

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[boyd, rounin]

> P.S. Back in my childhood I though that Russian military tongue was
> practically Morse code ...

-.-. --.-

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[Roman Shaposhnick]

On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 02:39:44AM +0200, boyd, rounin wrote:
> > P.S. Back in my childhood I though that Russian military tongue was
> > practically Morse code ...
> 
> -.-. --.-
  
   .--  -  ..-.  ..--..

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[Peter Bosch]

> On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 02:39:44AM +0200, boyd, rounin wrote:
>> > P.S. Back in my childhood I though that Russian military tongue was
>> > practically Morse code ...
>> 
>> -.-. --.-
>   
>    .--  -  ..-.  ..--..

#include <u.h>
#include <libc.h>
#include <bio.h>
#include <ctype.h>

static char*asciitab[] = {
	".-",	// A  
	"-...",
	"-.-.",
	"-..",
	".",
	"..-.",
	"--.",
	"....",
	"..",
	".---",
	"-.-",
	".-..",
	"--",
	"-.",
	"---",
	".--.",
	"--.-",
	".-.",
	"...",
	"-",
	"..-",
	"...-",
	".--",
	"-..-",
	"-.--",
	"--..",	// Z
};

static char*numtab[] = {
	"-----", // 0
	".----",
	"..---",
	"...--",
	"....-",
	".....",
	"-....",
	"--...",
	"---..",
	"----.",
};

static struct {
	char c;
	char *m;
} specials[] = {
{	'.',	".-.-.-"	},
{	',',	"--..--"	},
{	'?',	"..--.."	},
{	'@',	".--.-."	},
{	' ',	" "		},
};

int
morsefmt(Fmt *f)
{
	char *p, *src, *dst, c;
	int rv, len, i;

	src = va_arg(f->args, char*);
	len = strlen(src);
	p = dst = malloc(len * 6 + 1);
	if(dst == nil)
		return fmtstrcpy(f, "(romanfmt)");

	while(c = *src++){
		if(c == '\n')
			continue;

		if(isalpha(c)){
			c = toupper(c);
			assert(c >= 'A' && c <= 'Z');
			c -= 'A';
			len = strlen(asciitab[c]);
			memcpy(p, asciitab[c], len);
			p += len;
			continue;
		}

		if(isdigit(c)){
			assert(c >= '0' && c <= '9');
			c -= '0';
			len = strlen(numtab[c]);
			memcpy(p, numtab[c], len);
			p += len;
			continue;
		}

		for(i = 0; i < nelem(specials); i++)
			if(specials[i].c == c)
				break;

		if(i == nelem(specials)){
			*p++ = '?';
			continue;
		}

		len = strlen(specials[i].m);
		memcpy(p, specials[i].m, len);
		p += len;
	}
	*p = 0;

	rv = fmtstrcpy(f, dst);
	free(dst);
	return rv;
}

void
main(void)
{
	Biobuf b;
	char *p;

	Binit(&b, 0, OREAD);
	fmtinstall('M', morsefmt);
	while((p = Brdline(&b, '\n')) != nil){
		p[Blinelen(&b)] = 0;
		print("[%s] %M\n", p, p);
	}
	Bterm(&b);
	exits(0);
}

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[Noah Evans]

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Hmmmm...

that got me thinking.

How would the 9 folks implement the internet(meaning stuff like html) if given the chance? Especially the security model.

I've seen alternate ideas referred to in the archives, but I don't recall any systematic discussion of it.

Curious,

Noah


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From: ron minnich <rminnich@lanl.gov>
To: 9fans@cse.psu.edu
Subject: Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 10:58:03 -0600 (MDT)
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0404061056480.6572-100000@maxroach.lanl.gov>

On Mon, 5 Apr 2004, andrey mirtchovski wrote:

> the latest perpetrator was from Moldova. 

So what are we doing to do, hire Buford Pusser to go track 'em down and go
drill a hole in them? Give it up. The Internet is a public urinal,
nowadays. I'm begining to miss the '70s.

We need a new 'run by fascists' Internet :-)

ron

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[ron minnich]

On Mon, 5 Apr 2004, andrey mirtchovski wrote:

> the latest perpetrator was from Moldova. 

So what are we doing to do, hire Buford Pusser to go track 'em down and go
drill a hole in them? Give it up. The Internet is a public urinal,
nowadays. I'm begining to miss the '70s.

We need a new 'run by fascists' Internet :-)

ron

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[andrey mirtchovski]

> How would the 9 folks implement the internet(meaning stuff like
> html) if given the chance?  Especially the security model.

echo 'britney spears' > /mnt/web/google.com/searchctl
cd /mnt/web/^`{cat /mnt/web/google.com/searchdata}
page index.ps

note the .ps -- there's no need for html anymore, you can link by
plumbing file names...

andrey

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[Russ Cox]

andrey mirtchovski wrote:
>>How would the 9 folks implement the internet(meaning stuff like
>>html) if given the chance?  Especially the security model.
> 
> 
> echo 'britney spears' > /mnt/web/google.com/searchctl
> cd /mnt/web/^`{cat /mnt/web/google.com/searchdata}
> page index.ps

maybe it's sufficiently advanced technology,
but it sure looks like magic to me!

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[Bruce Ellis]

I wish I had that when I added "set english" and "set roman"
to csh as an april fool's joke (they instructed csh to display
all numbers in english text, or roman numerals).

set english
set morse

would have been particularly tedious (those pids).

brucee
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Bosch" <pb@research.bell-labs.com>
To: <9fans@cse.psu.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

> static char*asciitab[] = {
> ".-", // A  
> "-...",

etc ...

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[Geoff Collyer]

Hire Boyd, he's got the equipment, aptitude, attitude and relative
proximity.  I'll try to dig up my Protocol Police sheriff's badge.

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[boyd, rounin]

> Hire Boyd, he's got the equipment, aptitude, attitude ...

attitude?  moi?  :)

Re: [9fans] wiki editing via web browser

[Roman Shaposhnick]

Wow! That's the spirit.

Thanks,
Roman.

On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 09:08:48AM -0400, Peter Bosch wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 06, 2004 at 02:39:44AM +0200, boyd, rounin wrote:
> >> > P.S. Back in my childhood I though that Russian military tongue was
> >> > practically Morse code ...
> >> 
> >> -.-. --.-
> >   
> >    .--  -  ..-.  ..--..
> 
> #include <u.h>
> #include <libc.h>
> #include <bio.h>
> #include <ctype.h>
> 
> static char*asciitab[] = {
> 	".-",	// A  
> 	"-...",
> 	"-.-.",
> 	"-..",
> 	".",
> 	"..-.",
> 	"--.",
> 	"....",
> 	"..",
> 	".---",
> 	"-.-",
> 	".-..",
> 	"--",
> 	"-.",
> 	"---",
> 	".--.",
> 	"--.-",
> 	".-.",
> 	"...",
> 	"-",
> 	"..-",
> 	"...-",
> 	".--",
> 	"-..-",
> 	"-.--",
> 	"--..",	// Z
> };
> 
> static char*numtab[] = {
> 	"-----", // 0
> 	".----",
> 	"..---",
> 	"...--",
> 	"....-",
> 	".....",
> 	"-....",
> 	"--...",
> 	"---..",
> 	"----.",
> };
> 
> static struct {
> 	char c;
> 	char *m;
> } specials[] = {
> {	'.',	".-.-.-"	},
> {	',',	"--..--"	},
> {	'?',	"..--.."	},
> {	'@',	".--.-."	},
> {	' ',	" "		},
> };
> 
> int
> morsefmt(Fmt *f)
> {
> 	char *p, *src, *dst, c;
> 	int rv, len, i;
> 
> 	src = va_arg(f->args, char*);
> 	len = strlen(src);
> 	p = dst = malloc(len * 6 + 1);
> 	if(dst == nil)
> 		return fmtstrcpy(f, "(romanfmt)");
> 
> 	while(c = *src++){
> 		if(c == '\n')
> 			continue;
> 
> 		if(isalpha(c)){
> 			c = toupper(c);
> 			assert(c >= 'A' && c <= 'Z');
> 			c -= 'A';
> 			len = strlen(asciitab[c]);
> 			memcpy(p, asciitab[c], len);
> 			p += len;
> 			continue;
> 		}
> 
> 		if(isdigit(c)){
> 			assert(c >= '0' && c <= '9');
> 			c -= '0';
> 			len = strlen(numtab[c]);
> 			memcpy(p, numtab[c], len);
> 			p += len;
> 			continue;
> 		}
> 
> 		for(i = 0; i < nelem(specials); i++)
> 			if(specials[i].c == c)
> 				break;
> 
> 		if(i == nelem(specials)){
> 			*p++ = '?';
> 			continue;
> 		}
> 
> 		len = strlen(specials[i].m);
> 		memcpy(p, specials[i].m, len);
> 		p += len;
> 	}
> 	*p = 0;
> 
> 	rv = fmtstrcpy(f, dst);
> 	free(dst);
> 	return rv;
> }
> 
> void
> main(void)
> {
> 	Biobuf b;
> 	char *p;
> 
> 	Binit(&b, 0, OREAD);
> 	fmtinstall('M', morsefmt);
> 	while((p = Brdline(&b, '\n')) != nil){
> 		p[Blinelen(&b)] = 0;
> 		print("[%s] %M\n", p, p);
> 	}
> 	Bterm(&b);
> 	exits(0);
> }
>